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From: Junaid Shahid <junaids@google.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	yosryahmed@google.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, seanjc@google.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 03/29] mm: asi: Introduce ASI core API
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:34:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5aa114f7-3efb-4dab-8579-cb9af4abd3c0@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250314131419.GJZ9Qrq8scAtDyBUcg@fat_crate.local>

On 3/14/25 6:14 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 08:43:55AM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>> (otherwise if we get an NMI between asi_enter() and
>> asi_start_critical(), and that causes a #PF, we will start the
>> critical section in the wrong address space and ASI won't do its job).
>> So, we are somewhat forced to mix up a. and b. from above.
> 
> I don't understand: asi_enter() can be interrupted by an NMI at any random
> point. How is the current, imbalanced interface not vulnerable to this
> scenario?
> 

The reason this isn't a problem with the current asi_enter() is because there 
the equivalent of asi_start_critical() happens _before_ the address space 
switch. That ensures that even if an NMI arrives in the middle of asi_enter(), 
the NMI epilog will switch to the restricted address space and there is no 
window where an NMI (or any other interrupt/exception for that matter) would 
result in going into vmenter with an unrestricted address space.

So
	asi_enter();
	asi_start_critical();
	vmenter();
	asi_end_critical();

is broken as there is a problematic window between asi_enter() and 
asi_start_critical() as Brendan pointed out.

However,
	asi_start_critical();
	asi_enter();
	vmenter();
	asi_end_critical();

would work perfectly fine.

Perhaps that might be the way to refactor the API?

Thanks,
Junaid



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-15  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-10 18:40 [PATCH RFC v2 00/29] Address Space Isolation (ASI) Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/29] mm: asi: Make some utility functions noinstr compatible Brendan Jackman
2025-01-16  0:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-16 10:27     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-16 13:22       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-01-16 14:02         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/29] x86: Create CONFIG_MITIGATION_ADDRESS_SPACE_ISOLATION Brendan Jackman
2025-01-16 16:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01  7:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-05 13:12     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/29] mm: asi: Introduce ASI core API Brendan Jackman
2025-02-19 10:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 13:50     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-19 13:53     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-27 12:06       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-28  8:43         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-14 13:14           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-15  1:34             ` Junaid Shahid [this message]
2025-03-15 12:36               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-17 11:40                 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-18  0:50                   ` Junaid Shahid
2025-03-18 13:03                     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-18 22:48                       ` Junaid Shahid
2025-03-19 15:23                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/29] mm: asi: Add infrastructure for boot-time enablement Brendan Jackman
2025-03-19 17:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-19 18:47     ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-20 10:44       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/29] mm: asi: ASI support in interrupts/exceptions Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/29] mm: asi: Use separate PCIDs for restricted address spaces Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/29] mm: asi: Make __get_current_cr3_fast() ASI-aware Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/29] mm: asi: Avoid warning from NMI userspace accesses in ASI context Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/29] mm: asi: ASI page table allocation functions Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/29] mm: asi: asi_exit() on PF, skip handling if address is accessible Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/29] mm: asi: Functions to map/unmap a memory range into ASI page tables Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/29] mm: asi: Add basic infrastructure for global non-sensitive mappings Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/29] mm: Add __PAGEFLAG_FALSE Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/29] mm: asi: Map non-user buddy allocations as nonsensitive Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH TEMP WORKAROUND RFC v2 15/29] mm: asi: Workaround missing partial-unmap support Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/29] mm: asi: Map kernel text and static data as nonsensitive Brendan Jackman
2025-01-17 11:23   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/29] mm: asi: Map vmalloc/vmap " Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/29] mm: asi: Map dynamic percpu memory " Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/29] mm: asi: Stabilize CR3 in switch_mm_irqs_off() Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 20/29] mm: asi: Make TLB flushing correct under ASI Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 21/29] KVM: x86: asi: Restricted address space for VM execution Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 22/29] mm: asi: exit ASI before accessing CR3 from C code where appropriate Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 23/29] mm: asi: exit ASI before suspend-like operations Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 24/29] mm: asi: Add infrastructure for mapping userspace addresses Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 25/29] mm: asi: Restricted execution fore bare-metal processes Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 15:32   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-20 15:55   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 26/29] x86: Create library for flushing L1D for L1TF Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 27/29] mm: asi: Add some mitigations on address space transitions Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 28/29] x86/pti: Disable PTI when ASI is on Brendan Jackman
2025-01-10 18:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 29/29] mm: asi: Stop ignoring asi=on cmdline flag Brendan Jackman

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