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From: "Verma, Vishal L" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] dax/kmem: Always enroll hotplugged memory for memmap_on_memory
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 06:45:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a8e9b1b6c8d6d9e5405ca35abb9be3ed09761c3.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1df12885-9ae4-6aef-1a31-91ecd5a18d24@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2023-07-11 at 17:21 +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 11.07.23 16:30, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > Maybe the better alternative is teach
> > > add_memory_resource()/try_remove_memory() to do that internally.
> > > 
> > > In the add_memory_resource() case, it might be a loop around that
> > > memmap_on_memory + arch_add_memory code path (well, and the error path
> > > also needs adjustment):
> > > 
> > >         /*
> > >          * Self hosted memmap array
> > >          */
> > >         if (mhp_flags & MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY) {
> > >                 if (!mhp_supports_memmap_on_memory(size)) {
> > >                         ret = -EINVAL;
> > >                         goto error;
> > >                 }
> > >                 mhp_altmap.free = PHYS_PFN(size);
> > >                 mhp_altmap.base_pfn = PHYS_PFN(start);
> > >                 params.altmap = &mhp_altmap;
> > >         }
> > > 
> > >         /* call arch's memory hotadd */
> > >         ret = arch_add_memory(nid, start, size, &params);
> > >         if (ret < 0)
> > >                 goto error;
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Note that we want to handle that on a per memory-block basis, because we
> > > don't want the vmemmap of memory block #2 to end up on memory block #1.
> > > It all gets messy with memory onlining/offlining etc otherwise ...
> > > 
> > 
> > I tried to implement this inside add_memory_driver_managed() and also
> > within dax/kmem. IMHO doing the error handling inside dax/kmem is
> > better. Here is how it looks:
> > 
> > 1. If any blocks got added before (mapped > 0) we loop through all successful request_mem_regions
> > 2. For each succesful request_mem_regions if any blocks got added, we
> > keep the resource. If none got added, we will kfree the resource
> > 
> 
> Doing this unconditional splitting outside of 
> add_memory_driver_managed() is undesirable for at least two reasons
> 
> 1) You end up always creating individual entries in the resource tree
>     (/proc/iomem) even if MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY is not effective.
> 2) As we call arch_add_memory() in memory block granularity (e.g., 128
>     MiB on x86), we might not make use of large PUDs (e.g., 1 GiB) in the
>     identify mapping -- even if MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY is not effective.
> 
> While you could sense for support and do the split based on that, it 
> will be beneficial for other users (especially DIMMs) if we do that 
> internally -- where we already know if MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY can be 
> effective or not.

I'm taking a shot at implementing the splitting internally in
memory_hotplug.c. The caller (kmem) side does become trivial with this
approach, but there's a slight complication if I don't have the module
param override (patch 1 of this series).

The kmem diff now looks like:

   diff --git a/drivers/dax/kmem.c b/drivers/dax/kmem.c
   index 898ca9505754..8be932f63f90 100644
   --- a/drivers/dax/kmem.c
   +++ b/drivers/dax/kmem.c
   @@ -105,6 +105,8 @@ static int dev_dax_kmem_probe(struct dev_dax *dev_dax)
           data->mgid = rc;
    
           for (i = 0; i < dev_dax->nr_range; i++) {
   +               mhp_t mhp_flags = MHP_NID_IS_MGID | MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY |
   +                                 MHP_SPLIT_MEMBLOCKS;
                   struct resource *res;
                   struct range range;
    
   @@ -141,7 +143,7 @@ static int dev_dax_kmem_probe(struct dev_dax *dev_dax)
                    * this as RAM automatically.
                    */
                   rc = add_memory_driver_managed(data->mgid, range.start,
   -                               range_len(&range), kmem_name, MHP_NID_IS_MGID);
   +                               range_len(&range), kmem_name, mhp_flags);
    
                   if (rc) {
                           dev_warn(dev, "mapping%d: %#llx-%#llx memory add failed\n",
   

However this begins to fail if the memmap_on_memory modparam is not
set, as add_memory_driver_managed EINVALs from the
mhp_supports_memmap_on_memory() check.

The way to work around this would probably include doing the
mhp_supports_memmap_on_memory() check in kmem, in a loop to check for
each memblock sized chunk, and that feels like a leak of the
implementation details into the caller.

Any suggestions on how to go about this?
> 
> In general, we avoid placing important kernel data-structures on slow
> memory. That's one of the reasons why PMEM decided to mostly always use 
> ZONE_MOVABLE such that exactly what this patch does would not happen. So 
> I'm wondering if there would be demand for an additional toggle.
> 
> Because even with memmap_on_memory enabled in general, you might not 
> want to do that for dax/kmem.
> 
> IMHO, this patch should be dropped from your ppc64 series, as it's an
> independent change that might be valuable for other architectures as well.
> 
Sure thing, I can pick this back up and Aneesh can drop this from his set.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-13  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-15 22:00 [PATCH 0/3] mm: use memmap_on_memory semantics for dax/kmem Vishal Verma
2023-06-15 22:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/memory_hotplug: Allow an override for the memmap_on_memory param Vishal Verma
2023-06-16  6:35   ` Huang, Ying
2023-06-16  7:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-22 13:37     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-06-23  8:40   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-06-23 12:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memory_hotplug: Export symbol mhp_supports_memmap_on_memory() Vishal Verma
2023-06-16  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 22:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] dax/kmem: Always enroll hotplugged memory for memmap_on_memory Vishal Verma
2023-06-16  6:42   ` Huang, Ying
2023-06-16  7:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-11 14:30     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-07-11 15:21       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13  6:45         ` Verma, Vishal L [this message]
2023-07-13  7:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13 15:15             ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-07-13 15:23               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13 15:40                 ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-07-13 15:43                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 13:14   ` Tarun Sahu
2023-06-16  7:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: use memmap_on_memory semantics for dax/kmem David Hildenbrand
2023-06-21 19:32   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-06-22 13:55     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-13 19:12   ` Jeff Moyer
2023-07-14  8:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-14 13:54       ` Jeff Moyer

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