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However all adjacent VMAs will already have > VM_MERGEABLE set, rendering VMAs unmergeable by default. > > To work around this, we try to set the VM_MERGEABLE flag prior to > attempting a merge. In the case of brk() this can always be done. > > However on mmap() things are more complicated - while KSM is not supported > for file-backed mappings, it is supported for MAP_PRIVATE file-backed > mappings. > > And these mappings may have deprecated .mmap() callbacks specified which > could, in theory, adjust flags and thus KSM eligiblity. > > This is unlikely to cause an issue on merge, as any adjacent file-backed > mappings would already have the same post-.mmap() callback attributes, and > thus would naturally not be merged. > > But for the purposes of establishing a VMA as KSM-eligible (as well as > initially scanning the VMA), this is potentially very problematic. > > So we check to determine whether this at all possible. If not, we set > VM_MERGEABLE prior to the merge attempt on mmap(), otherwise we retain the > previous behaviour. > > When .mmap_prepare() is more widely used, we can remove this precaution. > > While this doesn't quite cover all cases, it covers a great many (all > anonymous memory, for instance), meaning we should already see a > significant improvement in VMA mergeability. > > Since, when it comes to file-backed mappings (other than shmem) we are > really only interested in MAP_PRIVATE mappings which have an available anon > page by default. Therefore, the VM_SPECIAL restriction makes less sense for > KSM. > > In a future series we therefore intend to remove this limitation, which > ought to simplify this implementation. However it makes sense to defer > doing so until a later stage so we can first address this mergeability > issue. > > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes > Fixes: d7597f59d1d3 ("mm: add new api to enable ksm per process") # please no backport! > Reviewed-by: Chengming Zhou Acked-by: David Hildenbrand -- Cheers, David / dhildenb