From: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
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Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 08:28:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a0818bb-75d4-47df-925c-0102f7d598f4-agordeev@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <338ef811-1dab-4c4e-bc5f-8ebd8cb68435@arm.com>
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 05:25:27PM +0200, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
Hi Kevin,
> Based on the outcome of the discussion with David on patch 2 [1p], there
> is indeed an alternative approach that we should seriously consider. In
> summary:
>
> * Keep the API stateless, handle nesting with a counter in task_struct
> * Introduce new functions to temporarily disable lazy_mmu without
> impacting nesting, track that with a bool in task_struct (addresses the
> situation in mm/kasan/shadow.c and possibly some x86 cases too)
> * Move as much handling from arch_* to generic functions
>
> What the new generic infrastructure would look like:
>
> struct task_struct {
> ...
> #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_LAZY_MMU
> struct {
> uint8_t count;
> bool enabled; /* or paused, see below */
> } lazy_mmu_state;
> #endif
> }
>
> * lazy_mmu_mode_enable():
This helper is parameter-free, assuming the MMU unit does not need any
configuration other than turning it on/off. That is currently true, but
(as I noted in my other mail) I am going to introduce a friend enable
function that accepts parameters, creates an arch-specific state and
uses it while the lazy mmu mode is active.
That does not impact your design (AFAICT), except one change below.
> if (!lazy_mmu_state.count) {
> arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
> lazy_mmu_state.enabled = true;
> }
> lazy_mmu_state.count++;
>
> * lazy_mmu_mode_disable():
> lazy_mmu_count--;
> if (!lazy_mmu_state.count) {
> lazy_mmu_state.enabled = false;
> arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
> } else {
> arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode();
> }
>
> * lazy_mmu_mode_pause():
> lazy_mmu_state.enabled = false;
> arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
This needs to be arch_pause_lazy_mmu_mode(), otherwise the arch-specific
state will be lost.
> * lazy_mmu_mode_resume();
> arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
Conversely, this needs to be arch_resume_lazy_mmu_mode(). And it can not
be arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode(), since a lazy_mmu_mode_resume() caller does
not know the parameters passed to the lazy_mmu_mode_enable(...)-friend.
> lazy_mmu_state.enabled = true;
...
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-15 6:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-08 7:39 Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] mm: remove arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode() Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 9:29 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-09 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] mm: introduce local state for lazy_mmu sections Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 9:30 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-09 5:40 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-09 9:05 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 9:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 9:40 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-09 10:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 11:45 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-09 11:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 13:49 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 14:02 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 14:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-10 15:16 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-10 15:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-11 16:19 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-11 18:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 7:26 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-12 8:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 8:48 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-12 8:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 12:37 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-12 12:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 12:56 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-12 13:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 14:05 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-12 14:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 15:02 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 14:38 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-10 16:11 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-11 12:06 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-11 16:20 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 10:57 ` Juergen Gross
2025-09-09 14:15 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 10:08 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] arm64: mm: fully support nested " Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 9:30 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] x86/xen: support nested lazy_mmu sections (again) Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 9:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 9:37 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-09 9:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 11:28 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 9:42 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] powerpc/mm: support nested lazy_mmu sections Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] sparc/mm: " Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] mm: update lazy_mmu documentation Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-08 9:30 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-08 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09 9:10 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-09 2:16 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-09 9:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 13:59 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-12 15:25 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-09-15 6:28 ` Alexander Gordeev [this message]
2025-09-15 11:19 ` Kevin Brodsky
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