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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: Remember young/dirty bit for page migrations
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:52:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B21352C-2BE6-4070-BB6B-C1B7A5D4D225@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvqcGq44oonHNyCO@xz-m1.local>

On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:32:48AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 06:00:58PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>> diff --git a/mm/migrate_device.c b/mm/migrate_device.c
>>>> index 27fb37d65476..699f821b8443 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/migrate_device.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/migrate_device.c
>>>> @@ -221,6 +221,10 @@ static int migrate_vma_collect_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp,
>>>> 			else
>>>> 				entry = make_readable_migration_entry(
>>>> 							page_to_pfn(page));
>>>> +			if (pte_young(pte))
>>>> +				entry = make_migration_entry_young(entry);
>>>> +			if (pte_dirty(pte))
>>>> +				entry = make_migration_entry_dirty(entry);
>>>> 			swp_pte = swp_entry_to_pte(entry);
>>>> 			if (pte_present(pte)) {
>>>> 				if (pte_soft_dirty(pte))
>>> 
>>> This change needs to be wrapped with pte_present() at least..
>>> 
>>> I also just noticed that this change probably won't help anyway because:
>>> 
>>>  (1) When ram->device, the pte will finally be replaced with a device
>>>      private entry, and device private entry does not yet support A/D, it
>>>      means A/D will be dropped again,
>>> 
>>>  (2) When device->ram, we are missing information on either A/D bits, or
>>>      even if device private entries start to suport A/D, it's still not
>>>      clear whether we should take device read/write into considerations
>>>      too on the page A/D bits to be accurate.
>>> 
>>> I think I'll probably keep the code there for completeness, but I think it
>>> won't really help much until more things are done.
>> 
>> It appears that there are more issues.  Between "pte = *ptep" and pte
>> clear, CPU may set A/D bit in PTE, so we may need to update pte when
>> clearing PTE.
> 
> Agreed, I didn't see it a huge problem with current code, but it should be
> better in that way.
> 
>> And I don't find the TLB is flushed in some cases after PTE is cleared.
> 
> I think it's okay to not flush tlb if pte not present.  But maybe you're
> talking about something else?

I think Huang refers to situation in which the PTE is cleared, still not
flushed, and then A/D is being set by the hardware.

At least on x86, the hardware is not supposed to do so. The only case I
remember (and sometimes misremembers) is with KNL erratum, which perhaps
needs to be considered:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20160708001911.9A3FD2B6@viggo.jf.intel.com/



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-15 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-09 22:00 [PATCH v3 0/7] mm: Remember a/d bits for migration entries Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm/x86: Use SWP_TYPE_BITS in 3-level swap macros Peter Xu
2022-08-10  1:13   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mm/swap: Comment all the ifdef in swapops.h Peter Xu
2022-08-10  1:19   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mm/swap: Add swp_offset_pfn() to fetch PFN from swap entry Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:04   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 13:17     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mm/thp: Carry over dirty bit when thp splits on pmd Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:24   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 15:13     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: Remember young/dirty bit for page migrations Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:30   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 15:19     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-11 15:19   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-12  2:32     ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-15 19:18       ` Peter Xu
2022-08-15 20:52         ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2022-08-15 21:03           ` Nadav Amit
2022-08-18 16:39             ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-17  1:49           ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] mm/swap: Cache maximum swapfile size when init swap Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:33   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 13:23     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mm/swap: Cache swap migration A/D bits support Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:37   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 17:09     ` Peter Xu

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