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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Lennart Poettering" <lennart@poettering.net>,
	"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Eric Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Szabolcs Nagy" <Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Jeremy Linton" <Jeremy.Linton@arm.com>,
	"Topi Miettinen" <toiwoton@gmail.com>,
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	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
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	"linux-abi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<linux-abi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm, personality: Implement memory-deny-write-execute as a personality flag
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:04:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59401856-0e45-0ee6-1e45-667c8e00cf21@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YmKDaEaOpOaKl7m9@arm.com>

On 22.04.22 12:28, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 06:37:49PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 13.04.22 15:49, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> The aim of such policy is to prevent a user task from inadvertently
>>> creating an executable mapping that is or was writeable (and
>>> subsequently made read-only).
>>>
>>> An example of mmap() returning -EACCESS if the policy is enabled:
>>>
>>> 	mmap(0, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC, flags, 0, 0);
>>>
>>> Similarly, mprotect() would return -EACCESS below:
>>>
>>> 	addr = mmap(0, size, PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC, flags, 0, 0);
>>> 	mprotect(addr, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC);
>>>
>>> With the past vma writeable permission tracking, mprotect() below would
>>> also fail with -EACCESS:
>>>
>>> 	addr = mmap(0, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, flags, 0, 0);
>>> 	mprotect(addr, size, PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC);
>>>
>>> While the above could be achieved by checking PROT_WRITE & PROT_EXEC on
>>> mmap/mprotect and denying mprotect(PROT_EXEC) altogether (current
>>> systemd MDWE approach via SECCOMP BPF filters), we want the following
>>> scenario to succeed:
>>>
>>> 	addr = mmap(0, size, PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC, flags, 0, 0);
>>> 	mprotect(addr, size, PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC | PROT_BTI);
>>>
>>> where PROT_BTI enables branch tracking identification on arm64.
>>>
>>> The choice for a DENY_WRITE_EXEC personality flag, inherited on fork()
>>> and execve(), was made by analogy to READ_IMPLIES_EXEC.
>>>
>>> Note that it is sufficient to check for VM_WAS_WRITE in
>>> map_deny_write_exec() as this flag is always set on VM_WRITE mappings.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
>>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>>
>> How does this interact with get_user_pages(FOLL_WRITE|FOLL_FORCE) on a
>> VMA that is VM_MAYWRITE but not VM_WRITE? Is it handled accordingly?
> 
> For now, that's just about VM_WRITE. Most vmas are VM_MAYWRITE, so we
> can't really have MAYWRITE^EXEC. The basic feature aims to avoid user
> vulnerabilities where a buffer is mapped both writeable and executable.
> Of course, it can be expanded with additional prctl() flags to cover
> other cases.
> 
>> Note that in the (FOLL_WRITE|FOLL_FORCE) we only require VM_MAYWRITE on
>> the vma and trigger a write fault. As the VMA is not VM_WRITE, we won't
>> actually map the PTE writable, but set it dirty. GUP will retry, find a
>> R/O pte that is dirty and where it knows that it broke COW and will
>> allow the read access, although the PTE is R/O.
>>
>> That mechanism is required to e.g., set breakpoints in R/O MAP_PRIVATE
>> kernel sections, but it's used elsewhere for page pinning as well.
>>
>> My gut feeling is that GUP(FOLL_WRITE|FOLL_FORCE) could be used right
>> now to bypass that mechanism, I might be wrong.
> 
> GUP can be used to bypass this. But if an attacker can trigger such GUP
> paths via a syscall (e.g. ptrace(PTRACE_POKEDATA)), I think we need the
> checks on those paths (and reject the syscall) rather than on
> mmap/mprotect(). This would be covered by something like CAP_SYS_PTRACE.
> 
> 

I was told that RDMA uses FOLL_FORCE|FOLL_WRITE and is available to
unprivileged users.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-13 13:49 [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm, arm64: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE) Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: Track previously writeable vma permission Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm, personality: Implement memory-deny-write-execute as a personality flag Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 17:37   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-22 10:28     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-22 11:04       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-04-22 13:12         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-22 17:41           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] fs/binfmt_elf: Tell user-space about the DENY_WRITE_EXEC " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] arm64: Select ARCH_ENABLE_DENY_WRITE_EXEC Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 18:39 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm, arm64: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE) Topi Miettinen
2022-04-14 13:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-14 18:52 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-15 20:01   ` Topi Miettinen
2022-04-20 13:01   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 17:44     ` Kees Cook
2022-04-20 19:34     ` Topi Miettinen
2022-04-20 23:21       ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21 15:35         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 16:42           ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21 17:24             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 17:41               ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21 18:33                 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 16:48           ` Topi Miettinen
2022-04-21 17:28             ` Catalin Marinas

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