From: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/10] mm, page_alloc: count movable pages when stealing from pageblock
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:56:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <58A441F8.9060909@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <810cd21a-070b-c6ed-68f7-1b065b270568@suse.cz>
On 2017/2/15 18:47, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 02/14/2017 11:07 AM, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>> On 2017/2/11 1:23, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>
>>> When stealing pages from pageblock of a different migratetype, we count how
>>> many free pages were stolen, and change the pageblock's migratetype if more
>>> than half of the pageblock was free. This might be too conservative, as there
>>> might be other pages that are not free, but were allocated with the same
>>> migratetype as our allocation requested.
>>>
>>> While we cannot determine the migratetype of allocated pages precisely (at
>>> least without the page_owner functionality enabled), we can count pages that
>>> compaction would try to isolate for migration - those are either on LRU or
>>> __PageMovable(). The rest can be assumed to be MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE or
>>> MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE, which we cannot easily distinguish. This counting can be
>>> done as part of free page stealing with little additional overhead.
>>>
>>> The page stealing code is changed so that it considers free pages plus pages
>>> of the "good" migratetype for the decision whether to change pageblock's
>>> migratetype.
>>>
>>> The result should be more accurate migratetype of pageblocks wrt the actual
>>> pages in the pageblocks, when stealing from semi-occupied pageblocks. This
>>> should help the efficiency of page grouping by mobility.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>>
>> Hi Vlastimil,
>>
>> How about these two changes?
>>
>> 1. If we steal some free pages, we will add these page at the head of start_migratetype
>> list, it will cause more fixed, because these pages will be allocated more easily.
>
> What do you mean by "more fixed" here?
>
>> So how about use list_move_tail instead of list_move?
>
> Hmm, not sure if it can make any difference. We steal because the lists
> are currently empty (at least for the order we want), so it shouldn't
> matter if we add to head or tail.
>
Hi Vlastimil,
Please see the following case, I am not sure if it is right.
MIGRATE_MOVABLE
order: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
free num: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 // one page(e.g. page A) was allocated before
MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE
order: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
free num: x x x x 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 // we want order=4, so steal from MIGRATE_MOVABLE
We alloc order=4 in MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE, then it will fallback to steal pages from
MIGRATE_MOVABLE, and we will move free pages form MIGRATE_MOVABLE list to
MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE list.
List of order 4-9 in MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE is empty, so add head or tail is the same.
But order 0-3 is not empty, so if we add to the head, we will allocate pages which
stolen from MIGRATE_MOVABLE first later. So we will have less chance to make a large
block(order=10) when the one page(page A) free again.
Also we will split order=9 which from MIGRATE_MOVABLE to alloc order=4 in expand(),
so if we add to the head, we will allocate pages which split from order=9 first later.
So we will have less chance to make a large block(order=9) when the order=4 page
free again.
>> __rmqueue_fallback
>> steal_suitable_fallback
>> move_freepages_block
>> move_freepages
>> list_move
>>
>> 2. When doing expand() - list_add(), usually the list is empty, but in the
>> following case, the list is not empty, because we did move_freepages_block()
>> before.
>>
>> __rmqueue_fallback
>> steal_suitable_fallback
>> move_freepages_block // move to the list of start_migratetype
>> expand // split the largest order
>> list_add // add to the list of start_migratetype
>>
>> So how about use list_add_tail instead of list_add? Then we can merge the large
>> block again as soon as the page freed.
>
> Same here. The lists are not empty, but contain probably just the pages
> from our stolen pageblock. It shouldn't matter how we order them within
> the same block.
>
> So maybe it could make some difference for higher-order allocations, but
> it's unclear to me. Making e.g. expand() more complex with a flag to
> tell it the head vs tail add could mean extra overhead in allocator fast
> path that would offset any gains.
>
>> Thanks,
>> Xishi Qiu
>>
>
>
> .
>
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-10 17:23 [PATCH v2 00/10] try to reduce fragmenting fallbacks Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] mm, compaction: reorder fields in struct compact_control Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:49 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-14 16:33 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] mm, compaction: remove redundant watermark check in compact_finished() Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:49 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-14 16:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] mm, page_alloc: split smallest stolen page in fallback Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:51 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-13 10:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-14 16:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] mm, page_alloc: count movable pages when stealing from pageblock Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-14 10:07 ` Xishi Qiu
2017-02-15 10:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-15 11:56 ` Xishi Qiu [this message]
2017-02-17 16:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-14 18:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-17 16:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] mm, compaction: change migrate_async_suitable() to suitable_migration_source() Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-14 18:12 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] mm, compaction: add migratetype to compact_control Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-14 18:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] mm, compaction: restrict async compaction to pageblocks of same migratetype Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:56 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-14 20:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-17 16:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-17 17:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] mm, compaction: finish whole pageblock to reduce fragmentation Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-13 10:57 ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-16 11:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [RFC v2 09/10] mm, page_alloc: disallow migratetype fallback in fastpath Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-10 17:23 ` [RFC v2 10/10] mm, page_alloc: introduce MIGRATE_MIXED migratetype Vlastimil Babka
2017-03-08 2:16 ` Yisheng Xie
2017-03-08 7:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-03-13 2:16 ` Yisheng Xie
2017-02-13 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] try to reduce fragmenting fallbacks Mel Gorman
2017-02-15 14:29 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-15 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-15 20:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-16 15:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-17 15:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-20 12:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-23 16:01 ` Mel Gorman
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