From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com,
nadav.amit@gmail.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, jannh@google.com,
mhklinux@outlook.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:13:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5820b18ef0ba48c33a62553fcc444c47f963b907.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250122083835.GE7145@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 2025-01-22 at 09:38 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> Looking at this more... I'm left wondering, did 'we' look at any
> other
> architecture code at all?
>
> For example, look at arch/arm64/mm/context.c and see how their reset
> works. Notably, they are not at all limited to reclaiming free'd
> ASIDs,
> but will very aggressively take back all ASIDs except for the current
> running ones.
>
I did look at the ARM64 code, and while their reset
is much nicer, it looks like that comes at a cost on
each process at context switch time.
In new_context(), there is a call to check_update_reserved_asid(),
which will iterate over all CPUs to check whether this
process's ASID is part of the reserved list that got
carried over during the rollover.
I don't know if that would scale well enough to work
on systems with thousands of CPUs.
> If we want to move towards relying on broadcast TBLI, we'll need to
> go in that direction.
For single threaded processes, which are still very
common, a local flush would likely be faster than
broadcast flushes, even if multiple broadcast flushes
can be pending simultaneously.
For very large systems with a large number of processes,
I agree we want to move in that direction, but we may
need to figure out whether or not everybody taking the
cpu_asid_lock at rollover time, and then scanning all
other CPUs from check_update_reserved_asid(), with the
lock held, would scale to systems with thousands of CPUs.
Everybody taking the cpu_asid_lock would probably be
fine, if they didn't all have to scan over all the
CPUs.
If we can figure out a more scalable way to do the
new_context() stuff, this would definitely be the
way to go.
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-20 2:40 [PATCH v6 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] x86/mm: make MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE unconditional Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 19:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] x86/mm: remove pv_ops.mmu.tlb_remove_table call Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 19:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-21 1:03 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-21 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 15:48 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] x86/mm: consolidate full flush threshold decision Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] x86/mm: get INVLPGB count max from CPUID Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] x86/mm: add INVLPGB support code Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 16:58 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB for kernel TLB flushes Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] x86/tlb: use INVLPGB in flush_tlb_all Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] x86/mm: use broadcast TLB flushing for page reclaim TLB flushing Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 14:02 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-20 16:09 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 20:04 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-20 22:44 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 7:31 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-21 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-21 10:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 1:40 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 18:48 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-22 8:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 1:13 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2025-01-23 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 12:42 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] x86,tlb: do targeted broadcast flushing from tlbbatch code Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] x86/mm: enable AMD translation cache extensions Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] x86/mm: only invalidate final translations with INVLPGB Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 5:58 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Michael Kelley
2025-01-24 11:41 ` Manali Shukla
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