From: zhong jiang <zhongjiang@huawei.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz, rientjes@google.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix oom work when memory is under pressure
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:13:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57D7FB71.9090102@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160912174445.GC14997@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 2016/9/13 1:44, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 12-09-16 21:42:28, zhong jiang wrote:
>> On 2016/9/12 19:13, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Mon 12-09-16 17:51:06, zhong jiang wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> hi, Michal
>>>> oom reaper indeed can accelerate the recovery of memory, but the patch
>>>> solve the extreme scenario, I hit it by runing trinity. I think the
>>>> scenario can happen whether oom reaper or not.
>>> could you be more specific about the case when the oom reaper and the
>>> current oom code led to the oom deadlock?
>> It is not the oom deadlock. It will lead to hungtask. The explain is
>> as follows.
>>
>> process A occupy a resource and lock it. then A need to allocate
>> memory when memory is very low. at the some time, oom will come up and
>> return directly. because it find other process is freeing memory in
>> same zone.
>>
>> however, the freed memory is taken away by another process.
>> it will lead to A oom again and again.
>>
>> process B still wait some resource holded by A. so B will obtain the
>> lock until A release the resource. therefor, if A spend much time to
>> obtain memory, B will hungtask.
> OK, I see what you are aiming for. And indeed such a starvation and
> resulting priority inversion is possible. It is a hard problem to solve
> and your patch doesn't address it either. You can spend enough time
> reclaiming and retrying without ever getting to the oom path to trigger
> this hungtask warning.
Yes.
> If you want to solve this problem properly then you would have to give
> tasks which are looping in the page allocator access to some portion of
> memory reserves. This is quite tricky to do right, though.
To use some portion of memory reserves is almost no effect in a so starvation scenario.
I think the hungtask still will occur. it can not solve the problem primarily.
> Retry counters with the fail path have been proposed in the past and not
> accepted.
The above patch have been tested by runing the trinity. The question is fixed.
Is there any reasonable reason oppose to the patch ? or it will bring in any side-effect.
Thanks
zhongjiang
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-13 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-06 14:47 zhongjiang
2016-09-09 11:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-12 9:51 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-12 11:13 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-12 13:42 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-12 17:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-13 13:13 ` zhong jiang [this message]
2016-09-13 13:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-13 14:01 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14 7:13 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14 8:42 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14 8:50 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14 8:52 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14 9:25 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14 11:29 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-14 13:52 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-18 6:00 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-18 6:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-19 4:44 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-19 7:15 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-16 22:13 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-09-17 15:56 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-18 4:04 ` zhong jiang
2016-09-18 14:42 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-19 17:27 ` Hugh Dickins
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