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From: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Yisheng Xie <xieyisheng1@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] can we use vmalloc to alloc thread stack if compaction failed
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:45:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5799C612.1050502@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160728075856.GE31860@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2016/7/28 15:58, Michal Hocko wrote:

> On Thu 28-07-16 15:41:53, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>> On 2016/7/28 15:20, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu 28-07-16 15:08:26, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>>>> Usually THREAD_SIZE_ORDER is 2, it means we need to alloc 16kb continuous
>>>> physical memory during fork a new process.
>>>>
>>>> If the system's memory is very small, especially the smart phone, maybe there
>>>> is only 1G memory. So the free memory is very small and compaction is not
>>>> always success in slowpath(__alloc_pages_slowpath), then alloc thread stack
>>>> may be failed for memory fragment.
>>>
>>> Well, with the current implementation of the page allocator those
>>> requests will not fail in most cases. The oom killer would be invoked in
>>> order to free up some memory.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Michal,
>>
>> Yes, it success in most cases, but I did have seen this problem in some
>> stress-test.
>>
>> DMA free:470628kB, but alloc 2 order block failed during fork a new process.
>> There are so many memory fragments and the large block may be soon taken by
>> others after compact because of stress-test.
>>
>> --- dmesg messages ---
>> 07-13 08:41:51.341 <4>[309805.658142s][pid:1361,cpu5,sManagerService]sManagerService: page allocation failure: order:2, mode:0x2000d1
> 
> Yes but this is __GFP_DMA allocation. I guess you have already reported
> this failure and you've been told that this is quite unexpected for the
> kernel stack allocation. It is your out-of-tree patch which just makes
> things worse because DMA restricted allocations are considered "lowmem"
> and so they do not invoke OOM killer and do not retry like regular
> GFP_KERNEL allocations.

Hi Michal,

Yes, we add GFP_DMA, but I don't think this is the key for the problem.

If we do oom-killer, maybe we will get a large block later, but there
is enough free memory before oom(although most of them are fragments).

I wonder if we can alloc success without kill any process in this situation.
Maybe use vmalloc is a good way, but I don't know the influence.

Thanks,
Xishi Qiu

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-28  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-28  7:08 Xishi Qiu
2016-07-28  7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-28  7:41   ` Xishi Qiu
2016-07-28  7:58     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-28  8:45       ` Xishi Qiu [this message]
2016-07-28  9:43         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 10:51           ` Xishi Qiu
2016-07-28 15:07             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-29  3:01               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-29 19:47                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01  5:30                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-08-10 11:59                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-16  4:18                       ` Joonsoo Kim

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