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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, vbabka@suse.cz, daniel@ffwll.ch,
	ray.huang@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] drm/ttm: optimize the pool shrinker a bit v2
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:08:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57572373-d68c-80de-7f9e-c04239d1b050@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210415133310.1ee9df70a9eb887be937c3a3@linux-foundation.org>

Am 15.04.21 um 22:33 schrieb Andrew Morton:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:56:24 +0200 "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @@ -530,6 +525,11 @@ void ttm_pool_fini(struct ttm_pool *pool)
>>   			for (j = 0; j < MAX_ORDER; ++j)
>>   				ttm_pool_type_fini(&pool->caching[i].orders[j]);
>>   	}
>> +
>> +	/* We removed the pool types from the LRU, but we need to also make sure
>> +	 * that no shrinker is concurrently freeing pages from the pool.
>> +	 */
>> +	sync_shrinkers();
> It isn't immediately clear to me how this works.  ttm_pool_fini() has
> already freed all the pages hasn't it?  So why would it care if some
> shrinkers are still playing with the pages?

Yes ttm_pool_fini() has freed up all pages which had been in the pool 
when the function was called.

But the problem is it is possible that a parallel running shrinker has 
taken a page from the pool and is in the process of freeing it up.

When I return here the pool structure and especially the device 
structure are freed while the parallel running shrinker is still using them.

I could go for a design where we have one shrinker per device instead, 
but that would put a bit to much pressure on the pool in my opinion.

> Or is it the case that ttm_pool_fini() is assuming that there will be
> some further action against these pages, which requires that shrinkers
> no longer be accessing the pages and which further assumes that future
> shrinker invocations will not be able to look up these pages?
>
> IOW, a bit more explanation about the dynamics here would help!

Sorry, I'm not a native speaker of English and sometimes still have a 
hard time explaining things.

Regards,
Christian.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-16  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-15 11:56 [PATCH 1/2] mm/vmscan: add sync_shrinkers function Christian König
2021-04-15 11:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/ttm: optimize the pool shrinker a bit v2 Christian König
2021-04-15 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2021-04-16  7:08     ` Christian König [this message]
2021-04-26 11:15       ` Christian König
2021-04-15 13:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/vmscan: add sync_shrinkers function Daniel Vetter

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