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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Peng Zhang <perlyzhang@gmail.com>,
	maple-tree@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peng Zhang <zhangpeng.00@bytedance.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/16] maple_tree: Refine mas_preallocate() node calculations
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 16:27:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57527c36-57a1-6699-b6f0-373ba895014c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZJmQVeiLtkFAGfW0@casper.infradead.org>

On 6/26/23 15:19, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 02:38:06AM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On the other hand, unless I miss something (and if so, please let me know),
>> something is bogus with the API then.
>>
>> While the documentation of the Advanced API of the maple tree explicitly
>> claims that the user of the API is responsible for locking, this should be
>> limited to the bounds set by the maple tree implementation. Which means, the
>> user must decide for either the internal (spin-) lock or an external lock
>> (which possibly goes away in the future) and acquire and release it
>> according to the rules maple tree enforces through lockdep checks.
>>
>> Let's say one picks the internal lock. How is one supposed to ensure the
>> tree isn't modified using the internal lock with mas_preallocate()?
>>
>> Besides that, I think the documentation should definitely mention this
>> limitation and give some guidance for the locking.
>>
>> Currently, from an API perspective, I can't see how anyone not familiar with
>> the implementation details would be able to recognize this limitation.
>>
>> In terms of the GPUVA manager, unfortunately, it seems like I need to drop
>> the maple tree and go back to using a rb-tree, since it seems there is no
>> sane way doing a worst-case pre-allocation that does not suffer from this
>> limitation.
> 
> I haven't been paying much attention here (too many other things going
> on), but something's wrong.
> 
> First, you shouldn't need to preallocate.  Preallocation is only there

Unfortunately, I think we really have a case where we have to. Typically 
GPU mappings are created in a dma-fence signalling critical path and 
that is where such mappings need to be added to the maple tree. Hence, 
we can't do any sleeping allocations there.

> for really gnarly cases.  The way this is *supposed* to work is that
> the store walks down to the leaf, attempts to insert into that leaf
> and tries to allocate new nodes with __GFP_NOWAIT.  If that fails,
> it drops the spinlock, allocates with the gfp flags you've specified,
> then rewalks the tree to retry the store, this time with allocated
> nodes in its back pocket so that the store will succeed.

You are talking about mas_store_gfp() here, right? And I guess, if the 
tree has changed while the spinlock was dropped and even more nodes are 
needed it just retries until it succeeds?

But what about mas_preallocate()? What happens if the tree changed in 
between mas_preallocate() and mas_store_prealloc()? Does the latter one 
fall back to __GFP_NOWAIT in such a case? I guess not, since 
mas_store_prealloc() has a void return type, and __GFP_NOWAIT could fail 
as well.

So, how to use the internal spinlock for mas_preallocate() and 
mas_store_prealloc() to ensure the tree can't change?



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-26 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12 20:39 [PATCH v2 00/16] Reduce preallocations for maple tree Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] maple_tree: Add benchmarking for mas_for_each Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] maple_tree: Add benchmarking for mas_prev() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] mm: Move unmap_vmas() declaration to internal header Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] mm: Change do_vmi_align_munmap() side tree index Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-20 12:26   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-06-20 13:04     ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-21  0:10       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] mm: Remove prev check from do_vmi_align_munmap() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] maple_tree: Introduce __mas_set_range() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mm: Remove re-walk from mmap_region() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] maple_tree: Adjust node allocation on mas_rebalance() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] maple_tree: Re-introduce entry to mas_preallocate() arguments Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] mm: Use vma_iter_clear_gfp() in nommu Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] mm: Set up vma iterator for vma_iter_prealloc() calls Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] maple_tree: Move mas_wr_end_piv() below mas_wr_extend_null() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] maple_tree: Update mas_preallocate() testing Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] maple_tree: Refine mas_preallocate() node calculations Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-22 16:41   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-25  3:28     ` Peng Zhang
2023-06-26  0:38       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-26 13:19         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-26 14:27           ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2023-06-26 14:49             ` Peng Zhang
2023-06-26 18:21               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-26 14:52             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-26 18:37               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-27  1:58                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-27 13:15                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-27 16:11                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-27 21:06                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-26 14:08         ` Peng Zhang
2023-06-26 14:30           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] maple_tree: Reduce resets during store setup Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-12 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] mm/mmap: Change vma iteration order in do_vmi_align_munmap() Liam R. Howlett
2023-06-15  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] Reduce preallocations for maple tree Yin, Fengwei

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