From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/31] exportfs: add new EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES flag
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 09:40:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56fr33ju43h6zzp6jrzrkyfag6r3jz6wpnk45oe5byy6fqyvti@d43hgikfuk7t> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aW8ztQ-RbhxwzMk7@infradead.org>
On Mon 19-01-26 23:50:13, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 11:26:19AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > + EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES - This filesystem provides filehandles that are
> > + stable across the lifetime of a file. This is a hard requirement for export
> > + via nfsd. Any filesystem that is eligible to be exported via nfsd must
> > + indicate this guarantee by setting this flag. Most disk-based filesystems
> > + can do this naturally. Pseudofilesystems that are for local reporting and
> > + control (e.g. kernfs, pidfs, nsfs) usually can't support this.
>
> Suggested rewording, taking some of the ideas from Dave Chinners earlier
> comments into account:
>
> EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES - This filesystem provides filehandles that are
> stable across the lifetime of a file. A file in this context is an
> instantiated inode reachable by one or more file names, or still open after
> the last name has been unlinked. Reuses of the same on-disk inode structure
> are considered new files and must provide different file handles from the
> previous incarnation. Most file systems designed to store user data
> naturally provide this capability. Pseudofilesystems that are for local
> reporting and control (e.g. kernfs, pidfs, nsfs) usually can't support this.
>
> This flags is a hard requirement for export via nfsd. Any filesystem that
> is eligible to be exported via nfsd must indicate this guarantee by
> setting this flag.
I like this. It certainly makes the requirement of stability clearer to me
(with explanations before I couldn't quite see the difference between shmem
and kernfs). I'd note that fat or shmem (which are both exportable)
satisfy this only with reasonably high probability as they use
get_random_u32() for initializing their i_generation but I guess it's as
good as it gets for them.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-20 8:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-19 16:26 [PATCH v2 00/31] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/31] Documentation: document EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS Jeff Layton
2026-01-20 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20 13:20 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-20 14:12 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-20 14:35 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-21 9:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-21 9:58 ` NeilBrown
2026-01-21 12:29 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-21 22:47 ` NeilBrown
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/31] exportfs: add new EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES flag Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:41 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-20 7:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20 8:40 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2026-01-21 9:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20 13:21 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/31] tmpfs: add EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES flag to export operations Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/31] ext4: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/31] ext2: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/31] erofs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/31] efs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/31] xfs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 09/31] ceph: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 10/31] btrfs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 11/31] befs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 12/31] ufs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 13/31] udf: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 14/31] affs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 15/31] squashfs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 16/31] smb/client: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 17/31] ovl: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:42 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 18/31] orangefs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 19/31] ocfs2: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 20/31] ntfs3: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 21/31] nilfs2: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 22/31] nfs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 23/31] jfs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 24/31] jffs2: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 25/31] isofs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 26/31] gfs2: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 27/31] fuse: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:43 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 28/31] fat: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 29/31] f2fs: " Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 30/31] nfsd: only allow filesystems that set EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:51 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-19 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 31/31] nfsd: convert dprintks in check_export() to tracepoints Jeff Layton
2026-01-19 16:47 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-20 13:42 ` Jeff Layton
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