From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Rudoff, Andy" <andy.rudoff@intel.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] New MAP_PMEM_AWARE mmap flag
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:10:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56CC686A.9040909@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160223095225.GB32294@infradead.org>
On 02/23/2016 11:52 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
<>
>
> And this is BS. Using msync or fsync might not perform as well as not
> actually using them, but without them you do not get persistence. If
> you use your pmem as a throw away cache that's fine, but for most people
> that is not the case.
>
Hi Christoph
So is exactly my suggestion. My approach is *not* the we do not call
m/fsync to let the FS clean up.
In my model we still do that, only we eliminate the m/fsync slowness
and the all page faults overhead by being instructed by the application
that we do not need to track the data modified cachelines. Since the
application is telling us that it will do so.
In my model the job is split:
App will take care of data persistence by instructing a MAP_PMEM_AWARE,
and doing its own cl_flushing / movnt.
Which is the heavy cost
The FS will keep track of the Meta-Data persistence as it already does, via the
call to m/fsync. Which is marginal performance compared to the above heavy
IO.
Note that the FS is still free to move blocks around, as Dave said:
lockout pagefaultes, unmap from user space, let app fault again on a new
block. this will still work as before, already in COW we flush the old
block so there will be no persistence lost.
So this all thread started with my patches, and my patches do not say
"no m/fsync" they say, make this 3-8 times faster than today if the app
is participating in the heavy lifting.
Please tell me what you find wrong with my approach?
Thanks
Boaz
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-23 14:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-21 17:03 Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 17:04 ` [RFC 1/2] mmap: Define a new " Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 17:06 ` [RFC 2/2] dax: Support " Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 19:51 ` [RFC 0/2] New " Dan Williams
2016-02-21 20:24 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 20:57 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-21 21:23 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 22:03 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-21 22:31 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-22 9:57 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-22 15:34 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 17:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 17:58 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 18:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 18:52 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 9:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 20:05 ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-02-23 9:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-23 10:07 ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-02-23 12:06 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 17:10 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 21:47 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 22:15 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 23:28 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-24 0:08 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 14:10 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2016-02-23 16:56 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 17:05 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 17:26 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 21:55 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 22:33 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:07 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 23:23 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:40 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-24 0:08 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 23:28 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 23:34 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:43 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 23:56 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-24 4:09 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-24 19:30 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-25 9:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-25 7:44 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-24 15:02 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-24 22:56 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 16:24 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 19:11 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 20:15 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 20:57 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 22:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-26 4:02 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-26 10:04 ` Thanumalayan Sankaranarayana Pillai
2016-02-28 10:17 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-03 17:38 ` Howard Chu
2016-02-29 20:25 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 21:08 ` Phil Terry
2016-02-25 21:39 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 21:20 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-29 20:32 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 17:25 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 22:47 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-22 21:50 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 13:51 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 14:22 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 11:05 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-11 6:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 19:07 ` Dan Williams
2016-03-11 19:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 23:02 ` Rudoff, Andy
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