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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RESEND] ipc/shm: handle removed segments gracefully in shm_mmap()
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 12:45:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5687B843.2040804@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151113192310.GC3502@linux-uzut.site>

On 11/13/2015 08:23 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>
> So considering EINVAL, even your approach to bumping up nattach by 
> calling
> _shm_open earlier isn't enough. Races exposed to user called rmid can 
> still
> occur between dropping the lock and doing ->mmap(). Ultimately this 
> leads to
> all ipc_valid_object() checks, as we totally ignore SHM_DEST segments 
> nowadays
> since we forbid mapping previously removed segments.
>
> I think this is the first thing we must decide before going forward 
> with this
> mess. ipc currently defines invalid objects by merely checking the 
> deleted flag.
>
> Manfred, any thoughts?
>
With regards to locking: Sorry, shm is too different to msg/sem/mqueue.

With regards to EIDRM / EINVAL:
When all kernel memory was released, then the kernel cannot find out if 
the ID was valid at one time or not.
Thus EIDRM can only be a hint, the OS (kernel/libc) cannot guarantee 
that user space will never see something else.
(trivial example: user space sleeps just before the syscall)

So I would not create special code to optimize EIDRM handling for races. 
If we sometimes report EINVAL, it would be probably ok as well.

--
     Manfred

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-02 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-11  8:57 Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-11-11 17:03 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-11-11 19:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-11-13  5:31     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-11-13  9:12       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-11-13 19:23         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-11-13 19:58           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-11-16  9:32           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-01-02 11:45           ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2016-01-04 14:11             ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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