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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] slub: Make PREEMPT_RT support less convoluted
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 16:37:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5679405a-b3c3-6dc5-783f-7ebeda7c9bf0@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2208181136560.1901102@gentwo.de>

On 8/18/22 11:42, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> 
>> + *   On PREEMPT_RT, the local lock neither disables interrupts nor preemption
>> + *   which means the lockless fastpath cannot be used as it might interfere with
>> + *   an in-progress slow path operations. In this case the local lock is always
>> + *   taken but it still utilizes the freelist for the common operations.
> 
> The slub fastpath does not interfere with slow path operations and the

That's true on !PREEMPT_RT because a slowpath operation under
local_lock_irqsave() will disable interrupts, so there can't be a
fastpath operation in an interrupt handler appearing in the middle of a
slowpath operation.

On PREEMPT_RT local_lock_irqsave() doesn't actually disable interrupts,
so that can happen. IIRC we learned that the hard way when Mike
Galbraith was testing early versions of my PREEMPT_RT changes for SLUB.

> fastpath does not require disabling preemption or interrupts if the
> processor supports local rmv operations. So you should be able to use the
> fastpath on PREEMPT_RT.
> 
> If the fastpath is not possible then you need to disable preemption and
> eventually take locks etc and then things may get a bit more complicated.

Yeah that's basically the solution for PREEMPT_RT, take the local_lock.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-18 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220817162703.728679-1-bigeasy@linutronix.de>
2022-08-17 16:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-18  9:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2022-08-18 14:37     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2022-08-18 15:22       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-19 15:04       ` Christoph Lameter
2022-08-25  5:15         ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-08-18 17:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-23 17:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-08-24 13:25     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-24 13:54       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-08-24 13:57         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:26 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm/vmstat: Use preempt_[dis|en]able_nested() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:26 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm/debug: Provide VM_WARN_ON_IRQS_ENABLED() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:27 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm/memcontrol: Replace the PREEMPT_RT conditionals Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:59   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-08-18  2:45   ` Muchun Song
2022-08-17 16:27 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm/compaction: Get rid of RT ifdeffery Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-18  8:55   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-08-18 15:51     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-24 13:50     ` Thomas Gleixner

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