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From: Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: willy@infradead.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, nphamcs@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/swap: queue reclaimable folio to local rotate batch when !folio_test_lru()
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:46:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56710a26-2cf4-4116-8181-4fa1ce084008@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zc0Ndi58Y8r4_Voj@google.com>

On 2024/2/15 02:59, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 05:54:56PM +0800, Chengming Zhou wrote:
>> On 2024/2/13 16:49, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 4:00 AM <chengming.zhou@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>
>>>>
>>>> All LRU move interfaces have a problem that it has no effect if the
>>>> folio is isolated from LRU (in cpu batch or isolated by shrinker).
>>>> Since it can't move/change folio LRU status when it's isolated, mostly
>>>> just clear the folio flag and do nothing in this case.
>>>>
>>>> In our case, a written back and reclaimable folio won't be rotated to
>>>> the tail of inactive list, since it's still in cpu lru_add batch. It
>>>> may cause the delayed reclaim of this folio and evict other folios.
>>>>
>>>> This patch changes to queue the reclaimable folio to cpu rotate batch
>>>> even when !folio_test_lru(), hoping it will likely be handled after
>>>> the lru_add batch which will put folio on the LRU list first, so
>>>> will be rotated to the tail successfully when handle rotate batch.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that it is totally up to chance whether the lru_add
>>> batch is handled first, especially that there may be problems if it
>>> isn't.
>>
>> You're right, I just don't know better solution :)
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  mm/swap.c | 5 +++--
>>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/swap.c b/mm/swap.c
>>>> index cd8f0150ba3a..d304731e47cf 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/swap.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/swap.c
>>>> @@ -236,7 +236,8 @@ static void folio_batch_add_and_move(struct folio_batch *fbatch,
>>>>
>>>>  static void lru_move_tail_fn(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio)
>>>>  {
>>>> -       if (!folio_test_unevictable(folio)) {
>>>> +       if (!folio_test_locked(folio) && !folio_test_dirty(folio) &&
>>>> +           !folio_test_unevictable(folio) && !folio_test_active(folio)) {
>>>
>>> What are these conditions based on? I assume we want to check if the
>>> folio is locked because we no longer check that it is on the LRUs, so
>>> we want to check that no one else is operating on it, but I am not
>>> sure that's enough.
>>
>> These conditions are used for checking whether the folio should be reclaimed/rotated
>> at this point. Like we shouldn't reclaim it if it has been dirtied or actived.
> 
> This should be explained somewhere, a comment or in the commit message.
>  
>> lru_move_tail_fn() will only be called after we isolate this folio successfully
>> in folio_batch_move_lru(), so if other path has isolated this folio (cpu batch
>> or reclaim shrinker), this function will not be called.
> 
> Interesting, why are we checking if the folio is locked here then?

I think it means the folio is using by others, and reclaim needs to lock the folio.
Not very sure.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>                 lruvec_del_folio(lruvec, folio);
>>>>                 folio_clear_active(folio);
>>>>                 lruvec_add_folio_tail(lruvec, folio);
>>>> @@ -254,7 +255,7 @@ static void lru_move_tail_fn(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio)
>>>>  void folio_rotate_reclaimable(struct folio *folio)
>>>>  {
>>>>         if (!folio_test_locked(folio) && !folio_test_dirty(folio) &&
>>>> -           !folio_test_unevictable(folio) && folio_test_lru(folio)) {
>>>> +           !folio_test_unevictable(folio) && !folio_test_active(folio)) {
>>>
>>> I am not sure it is safe to continue with a folio that is not on the
>>> LRUs. It could be isolated for other purposes, and we end up adding it
>>> to an LRU nonetheless. Also, folio_batch_move_lru() will do
>>
>> This shouldn't happen since lru_move_tail_fn() will only be called if
>> folio_test_clear_lru() successfully in folio_batch_move_lru().
> 
> I see, so this is where we hope lru_add batch gets handled first. I need
> to think about this some more, let's also see what others like Yu say.

Right.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-18  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-09 11:59 [PATCH RFC 0/1] mm/zswap: fix LRU reclaim for zswap writeback folios chengming.zhou
2024-02-09 11:59 ` [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/swap: queue reclaimable folio to local rotate batch when !folio_test_lru() chengming.zhou
2024-02-13  8:49   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-02-14  9:54     ` Chengming Zhou
2024-02-14 18:59       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-02-18  2:46         ` Chengming Zhou [this message]
2024-02-14  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2024-02-14  9:18     ` Chengming Zhou
2024-02-15  7:06       ` Yu Zhao
2024-02-18  2:52         ` Chengming Zhou
2024-02-18  8:08           ` Yu Zhao

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