From: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: borntraeger@de.ibm.com, x86@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/25] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:23:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <562953BC.9070003@sr71.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151022205746.GA3045@gmail.com>
On 10/22/2015 01:57 PM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> I have not read all the patches, but here i assume that for GUP you do
> not first call arch_vma_access_permitted(). So issue i see is that GUP
> for a process might happen inside another process and that process might
> have different pkru protection keys, effectively randomly allowing or
> forbidding a device driver to perform a GUP from say some workqueue that
> just happen to be schedule against a different processor/thread than the
> one against which it is doing the GUP for.
There are some places where there is no real context from which we can
determine access rights. ptrace is a good example. We don't enforce
PKEYs when walking _another_ process's page tables.
Can you give an example of where a process might be doing a gup and it
is completely separate from the CPU context that it's being executed under?
> Second and more fundamental thing i have issue with is that this whole
> pkru keys are centric to CPU POV ie this is a CPU feature. So i do not
> believe that device driver should be forbidden to do GUP base on pkru
> keys.
I don't think of it as something necessarily central to the CPU, but
something central to things that walk page tables. We mark page tables
with PKEYs and things that walk them will have certain rights.
> Tying this to the pkru reg value of whatever processor happens to be
> running some device driver kernel function that try to do a GUP seems
> broken to me.
That's one way to look at it. Another way is that PKRU is specifying
some real _intent_ about whether we want access to be allowed to some
memory.
> So as first i would just allow GUP to always work and then come up with
> syscall to allow to set pkey on device file. This obviously is a lot more
> work as you need to go over all device driver using GUP.
I wouldn't be opposed to adding some context to the thread (like
pagefault_disable()) that indicates whether we should enforce protection
keys. If we are in some asynchronous context, disassociated from the
running CPU's protection keys, we could set a flag.
I'd really appreciate if you could point to some concrete examples here
which could actually cause a problem, like workqueues doing gups.
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-28 19:18 [PATCH 00/25] x86: Memory Protection Keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 01/25] x86, fpu: add placeholder for Processor Trace XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 02/25] x86, pkeys: Add Kconfig option Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 03/25] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 05/25] x86, pkey: add PKRU xsave fields and data structure(s) Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 17:17 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 04/25] x86, pku: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 06/25] x86, pkeys: PTE bits for storing protection key Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 08/25] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 07/25] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 11:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 17:19 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 10/25] x86, pkeys: pass VMA down in to fault signal generation code Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 09/25] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 13/25] mm: factor out VMA fault permission checking Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 11/25] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 12/25] x86, pkeys: add functions to fetch PKRU Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 16/25] x86, pkeys: optimize fault handling in access_error() Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 15/25] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys Dave Hansen
2015-10-22 20:57 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-10-22 21:23 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2015-10-22 22:25 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-10-23 0:49 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 14/25] mm: simplify get_user_pages() PTE bit handling Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 18/25] x86, pkeys: dump PTE pkey in /proc/pid/smaps Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 19/25] x86, pkeys: add Kconfig prompt to existing config option Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 17/25] x86, pkeys: dump PKRU with other kernel registers Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 20/25] mm, multi-arch: pass a protection key in to calc_vm_flag_bits() Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 22/25] x86: wire up mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 23/25] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 21/25] mm: implement new mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-29 6:39 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-09-29 14:16 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 25/25] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 20:34 ` Andi Kleen
2015-09-28 20:41 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:18 ` [PATCH 24/25] x86, pkeys: add self-tests Dave Hansen
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