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From: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/26] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:15:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56042F96.6030107@sr71.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150924092320.GA26876@gmail.com>

Christian, can you tell us how big s390's storage protection keys are?
See the discussion below about siginfo...

On 09/24/2015 02:23 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> +static u16 fetch_pkey(unsigned long address, struct task_struct *tsk)
>> +{
...
>> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma = find_vma(tsk->mm, address);
>> +		if (vma) {
>> +			ret = vma_pkey(vma);
>> +		} else {
>> +			WARN_ONCE(1, "no PTE or VMA @ %lx\n", address);
>> +			ret = 0;
>> +		}
>> +	}
>> +	return ret;
> 
> Yeah, so I have three observations:
> 
> 1)
> 
> I don't think this warning is entirely right, because this is a fundamentally racy 
> op.
> 
> fetch_pkey(), called by force_sign_info_fault(), can be called while not holding 
> the vma - and if we race with any other thread of the mm, the vma might be gone 
> already.
> 
> So any threaded app using pkeys and vmas in parallel could trigger that WARN_ON().

Agreed.  I'll remove the warning.

> 2)
> 
> And note that this is a somewhat new scenario: in regular page faults, 
> 'error_code' always carries a then-valid cause of the page fault with itself. So 
> we can put that into the siginfo and can be sure that it's the reason for the 
> fault.
> 
> With the above pkey code, we fetch the pte separately from the fault, and without 
> synchronizing with the fault - and we cannot do that, nor do we want to.
> 
> So I think this code should just accept the fact that races may happen. Perhaps 
> warn if we get here with only a single mm user. (but even that would be a bit racy 
> as we don't serialize against exit())

Good point.

> 3)
> 
> For user-space that somehow wants to handle pkeys dynamically and drive them via 
> faults, this seems somewhat inefficient: we already do a find_vma() in the primary 
> fault lookup - and with the typical pkey usecase it will find a vma, just with the 
> wrong access permissions. But when we generate the siginfo here, why do we do a 
> find_vma() again? Why not pass the vma to the siginfo generating function?

My assumption was that the signal generation case was pretty slow.
find_vma() is almost guaranteed to hit the vmacache, and we already hold
mmap_sem, so the cost is pretty tiny.

I'm happy to change it if you're really concerned, but I didn't think it
would be worth the trouble of plumbing it down.

>> --- a/include/uapi/asm-generic/siginfo.h~pkeys-09-siginfo	2015-09-16 10:48:15.584161859 -0700
>> +++ b/include/uapi/asm-generic/siginfo.h	2015-09-16 10:48:15.592162222 -0700
>> @@ -95,6 +95,13 @@ typedef struct siginfo {
>>  				void __user *_lower;
>>  				void __user *_upper;
>>  			} _addr_bnd;
>> +			int _pkey; /* FIXME: protection key value??
>> +				    * Do we really need this in here?
>> +				    * userspace can get the PKRU value in
>> +				    * the signal handler, but they do not
>> +				    * easily have access to the PKEY value
>> +				    * from the PTE.
>> +				    */
>>  		} _sigfault;
> 
> A couple of comments:
> 
> 1)
> 
> Please use our ABI types - this one should be 'u32' I think.
> 
> We could use 'u8' as well here, and mark another 3 bytes next to it as reserved 
> for future flags. Right now protection keys use 4 bits, but do you really think 
> they'll ever grow beyond 8 bits? PTE bits are a scarce resource in general.

I don't expect them to get bigger, at least with anything resembling the
current architecture.  Agreed about the scarcity of PTE bits.

siginfo.h is shared everywhere, so I'd ideally like to put a type in
there that all the other architectures can use.

> 3)
> 
> Please add suitable self-tests to tools/tests/selftests/x86/ that both documents 
> the preferred usage of pkeys, demonstrates all implemented aspects the new ABI and 
> provokes a fault and prints the resulting siginfo, etc.
> 
>> @@ -206,7 +214,8 @@ typedef struct siginfo {
>>  #define SEGV_MAPERR	(__SI_FAULT|1)	/* address not mapped to object */
>>  #define SEGV_ACCERR	(__SI_FAULT|2)	/* invalid permissions for mapped object */
>>  #define SEGV_BNDERR	(__SI_FAULT|3)  /* failed address bound checks */
>> -#define NSIGSEGV	3
>> +#define SEGV_PKUERR	(__SI_FAULT|4)  /* failed address bound checks */
>> +#define NSIGSEGV	4
> 
> You copy & pasted the MPX comment here, it should read something like:
> 
>    #define SEGV_PKUERR	(__SI_FAULT|4)  /* failed protection keys checks */

Whoops.  Will fix.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-24 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 17:49 [PATCH 00/26] [RFCv2] x86: Memory Protection Keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 01/26] x86, fpu: add placeholder for Processor Trace XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 02/26] x86, pkeys: Add Kconfig option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 04/26] x86, pku: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 03/26] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 07/26] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 06/26] x86, pkeys: PTE bits for storing protection key Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 05/26] x86, pkey: add PKRU xsave fields and data structure(s) Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 19:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 19:58     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 10/26] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:21     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:29         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-23  8:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24  9:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24  9:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:41       ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-25  7:11         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25 23:18           ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-26  6:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27 22:39               ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28  5:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:15     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2015-09-28 19:25       ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-28 19:32         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 11/26] x86, pkeys: add functions for set/fetch PKRU Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:22     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 08/26] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 09/26] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 13/26] mm: simplify get_user_pages() PTE bit handling Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 14/26] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 12/26] mm: factor out VMA fault permission checking Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 16/26] x86, pkeys: dump PKRU with other kernel registers Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 15/26] x86, pkeys: optimize fault handling in access_error() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 17/26] x86, pkeys: dump PTE pkey in /proc/pid/smaps Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 18/26] x86, pkeys: add Kconfig prompt to existing config option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 19/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm, multi-arch: pass a protection key in to calc_vm_flag_bits() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 20/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm: implement new mprotect_pkey() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 21/26] [NEWSYSCALL] x86: wire up mprotect_key() " Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 22/26] [HIJACKPROT] mm: Pass the 4-bit protection key in via PROT_ bits to syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 25/26] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 23/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: add x86 version of arch_validate_prot() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 24/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: mask off pkeys bits in mprotect() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-09-20  8:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-21  4:34     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24  9:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 19:10         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24 19:17           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-25  7:16             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25  6:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 11:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 20:39             ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 20:45               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02  6:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 17:50                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-03  7:27                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-06 23:28                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07  7:11                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-16 15:12                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 18:55                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 19:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 23:22                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 20:58               ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:33               ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:35                 ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 22:39                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-01 22:56                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02  1:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 18:08                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02  7:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03  6:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 11:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 12:14                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-03  6:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 22:57                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02  6:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03  8:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-07 20:24           ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07 20:39             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-07 20:47               ` Dave Hansen

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