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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:27:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <556445a2-8912-c017-413c-7a4f36c4b89e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729091249.GE9330@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 7/29/19 5:12 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 27-07-19 13:10:47, Waiman Long wrote:
>> It was found that a dying mm_struct where the owning task has exited
>> can stay on as active_mm of kernel threads as long as no other user
>> tasks run on those CPUs that use it as active_mm. This prolongs the
>> life time of dying mm holding up memory and other resources like swap
>> space that cannot be freed.
> IIRC use_mm doesn't pin the address space. It only pins the mm_struct
> itself. So what exactly is the problem here?

As explained in my response to Peter, I found that resource like swap
space were depleted even after the exit of the offending program in a
mostly idle system. This patch is to make sure that those resources get
freed after program exit ASAP.

>> Fix that by forcing the kernel threads to use init_mm as the active_mm
>> if the previous active_mm is dying.
>>
>> The determination of a dying mm is based on the absence of an owning
>> task. The selection of the owning task only happens with the CONFIG_MEMCG
>> option. Without that, there is no simple way to determine the life span
>> of a given mm. So it falls back to the old behavior.
> Please don't. We really wont to remove mm->owner long term.

OK, if that is the case, I will need to find an alternative way to
determine if an mm is to be freed soon and perhaps set a flag to
indicate that.

Thanks,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-27 17:10 Waiman Long
2019-07-29  8:18 ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29 21:06   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 21:33     ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29  8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:24   ` [PATCH] sched: Clean up active_mm reference counting Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:01     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-07-29 15:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:29     ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 14:27   ` [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:22     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:51   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:28       ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 15:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 16:10           ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:37       ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 16:12         ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-29  9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 15:27   ` Waiman Long [this message]
2019-07-29 18:58     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 20:41       ` Waiman Long

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