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From: "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Anisse Astier <anisse@astier.eu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Brad Spengler <spender@grsecurity.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] PM / Hibernate: prepare for SANITIZE_FREED_PAGES
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:50:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55531E5C.32539.21B688F@pageexec.freemail.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALUN=q+OZFarqRoWMynRZy0ckv7qnsAQvWr9wkvdK_JmA=oomw@mail.gmail.com>

On 11 May 2015 at 9:59, Anisse Astier wrote:

> > Otherwise it looks good to me... if the sanitization is considered
> > useful. Did it catch some bugs in the past?
> >
> 
> I've read somewhere that users of grsecurity claim that it caught bugs
> in some drivers, but I haven't verified that personally; it's probably
> much less useful than kasan (or even the original grsec feature) as a
> bug-catcher since it doesn't clear freed slab buffers.

the PaX SANITIZE feature wasn't developed for catching use-after-free bugs
but to help reduce data lifetime from the kernel while not killing too much
performance (this is why i was reluctant to add a finer grained version to
do slab object sanitization until Mathias Krause came up with a workable
compromise).

another reason page zeroing isn't good at catching these bugs is that the
0 fill value will produce NULL pointers which are often explicitly handled
already. on the other hand changing the fill value would not allow the
__GFP_ZERO performance optimization (the slab sanitization feature is a
different story however, we have a non-0 fill value and it keeps triggering
use-after-free bugs).

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-13  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-07  6:34 [PATCH v3 0/4] Sanitizing freed pages Anisse Astier
2015-05-07  6:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/page_alloc.c: cleanup obsolete KM_USER* Anisse Astier
2015-05-07  6:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] PM / Hibernate: prepare for SANITIZE_FREED_PAGES Anisse Astier
2015-05-09 15:44   ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-11  7:59     ` Anisse Astier
2015-05-13  9:50       ` PaX Team [this message]
2015-05-07  6:34 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/page_alloc.c: add config option to sanitize freed pages Anisse Astier
2015-05-07  6:34 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: Add debug code for SANITIZE_FREED_PAGES Anisse Astier

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