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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumzaet@google.com>,
	"Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroup/rstat: avoid disabling irqs for O(num_cpu)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 10:53:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54wer7lbgg4mgxv7ky5zzsgjv2vi4diu7clvcklxgmrp2u4gvn@tr2twe5xdtgt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250319071330.898763-1-gthelen@google.com>

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 12:13:30AM -0700, Greg Thelen wrote:
> From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> 
> cgroup_rstat_flush_locked() grabs the irq safe cgroup_rstat_lock while
> iterating all possible cpus. It only drops the lock if there is
> scheduler or spin lock contention. If neither, then interrupts can be
> disabled for a long time. On large machines this can disable interrupts
> for a long enough time to drop network packets. On 400+ CPU machines
> I've seen interrupt disabled for over 40 msec.

Which kernel was this observed on in production?

> 
> Prevent rstat from disabling interrupts while processing all possible
> cpus. Instead drop and reacquire cgroup_rstat_lock for each cpu.

Doing for each cpu might be too extreme. Have you tried with some
batching?

> This
> approach was previously discussed in
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ZBz%2FV5a7%2F6PZeM7S@slm.duckdns.org/,
> though this was in the context of an non-irq rstat spin lock.
> 
> Benchmark this change with:
> 1) a single stat_reader process with 400 threads, each reading a test
>    memcg's memory.stat repeatedly for 10 seconds.
> 2) 400 memory hog processes running in the test memcg and repeatedly
>    charging memory until oom killed. Then they repeat charging and oom
>    killing.
> 

Though this benchmark seems too extreme but userspace holding off irqs
for that long time is bad. BTW are these memory hoggers, creating anon
memory or file memory? Is [z]swap enabled?

For the long term, I think we can use make this work without disabling
irqs, similar to how networking manages sock lock.

> v6.14-rc6 with CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER with stat_reader and hogs, finds
> interrupts are disabled by rstat for 45341 usec:
>   #  => started at: _raw_spin_lock_irq
>   #  => ended at:   cgroup_rstat_flush
>   #
>   #
>   #                    _------=> CPU#
>   #                   / _-----=> irqs-off/BH-disabled
>   #                  | / _----=> need-resched
>   #                  || / _---=> hardirq/softirq
>   #                  ||| / _--=> preempt-depth
>   #                  |||| / _-=> migrate-disable
>   #                  ||||| /     delay
>   #  cmd     pid     |||||| time  |   caller
>   #     \   /        ||||||  \    |    /
>   stat_rea-96532    52d....    0us*: _raw_spin_lock_irq
>   stat_rea-96532    52d.... 45342us : cgroup_rstat_flush
>   stat_rea-96532    52d.... 45342us : tracer_hardirqs_on <-cgroup_rstat_flush
>   stat_rea-96532    52d.... 45343us : <stack trace>
>    => memcg1_stat_format
>    => memory_stat_format
>    => memory_stat_show
>    => seq_read_iter
>    => vfs_read
>    => ksys_read
>    => do_syscall_64
>    => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe
> 
> With this patch the CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER doesn't find rstat to be the
> longest holder. The longest irqs-off holder has irqs disabled for
> 4142 usec, a huge reduction from previous 45341 usec rstat finding.
> 
> Running stat_reader memory.stat reader for 10 seconds:
> - without memory hogs: 9.84M accesses => 12.7M accesses
> -    with memory hogs: 9.46M accesses => 11.1M accesses
> The throughput of memory.stat access improves.
> 
> The mode of memory.stat access latency after grouping by of 2 buckets:
> - without memory hogs: 64 usec => 16 usec
> -    with memory hogs: 64 usec =>  8 usec
> The memory.stat latency improves.

So, things are improving even without batching. I wonder if there are
less readers then how will this look like. Can you try with single
reader as well?

> 
> Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
> Tested-by: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>

Reviewed-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-19 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-19  7:13 Greg Thelen
2025-03-19  7:17 ` Greg Thelen
2025-03-19 10:20 ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-19 10:47 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-19 17:18   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-27 14:38     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-27 17:17       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-27 17:47         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-01 15:00           ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-01 15:46             ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-01 16:59               ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-19 17:26   ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-26 23:57     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-19 17:16 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-19 18:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 18:35     ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-19 19:10       ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-19 19:16       ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 19:46         ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-19 17:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 17:53 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-03-19 18:37   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-20 14:43   ` Greg Thelen

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