From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Do we really need SLOB nowdays?
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:10:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54c6fff8-8c79-463b-a359-96e37bd13674@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211215062904.GA1150813@odroid>
On 12/15/21 07:29, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 06:24:58PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 12/10/21 13:06, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>> > On Fri, 10 Dec 2021, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > (But I still have doubt if we can run linux on machines like that.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I sent you a series of articles about making Linux run in 1MB.
>> >>
>> >> After some time playing with the size of kernel,
>> >> I was able to run linux in 6.6MiB of RAM. and the SLOB used
>> >> around 300KiB of memory.
>> >
>> > What is the minimal size you need for SLUB?
>>
>
> I don't know why Christoph's mail is not in my mailbox. maybe I deleted it
> by mistake or I'm not cc-ed.
>
> Anyway, I tried to measure this again with SLUB and SLOB.
>
> SLUB uses few hundreds of bytes than SLOB.
>
> There isn't much difference in 'Memory required to boot'.
> (interestingly SLUB requires less)
>
> 'Memory required to boot' is measured by reducing memory
> until it says 'System is deadlocked on memory'. I don't know
> exact reason why they differ.
>
> Note that the configuration is based on tinyconfig and
> I added initramfs support + tty layer (+ uart driver) + procfs support,
> + ELF binary support + etc.
>
> there isn't even block layer, but it's good starting point to see
> what happens in small system.
>
> SLOB:
>
> Memory required to boot: 6950K
>
> Slab: 368 kB
>
> SLUB:
> Memory required to boot: 6800K
>
> Slab: 552 kB
>
> SLUB with slab merging:
>
> Slab: 536 kB
168kB different on a system with less than 8MB memory looks rather
significant to me to simply delete SLOB, I'm afraid.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-15 10:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-17 4:28 [RFC] More deterministic SLOB for real time embedded systems Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-17 13:36 ` segregated list + slab merging is much better than original SLOB Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-17 13:57 ` Do we really need SLOB nowdays? Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-17 14:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-18 9:45 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-25 8:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2021-10-28 10:04 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-28 12:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-30 6:12 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
[not found] ` <20211210110835.GA632811@odroid>
2021-12-10 12:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2021-12-14 17:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
[not found] ` <20211215062904.GA1150813@odroid>
2021-12-15 10:10 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2021-12-15 15:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-02-18 10:13 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-02-18 10:37 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-02-18 16:10 ` David Laight
2022-02-19 11:59 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-25 8:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2021-10-25 8:14 ` [RFC] More deterministic SLOB for real time embedded systems Christoph Lameter
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