From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
Li Zhe <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
dave@stgolabs.net, ankur.a.arora@oracle.com, fvdl@google.com,
gourry@gourry.net, joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
jonathan.cameron@huawei.com, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
mhocko@suse.com, mjguzik@gmail.com, muchun.song@linux.dev,
osalvador@suse.de, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
wangzhou1@hisilicon.com, zhanjie9@hisilicon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 13:32:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54a7e6ff-b3bc-4de4-af26-03fa1400d5f9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260120094744.5d92e34a@pumpkin>
On 1/20/26 10:47, David Laight wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 14:27:06 +0800
> "Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com> wrote:
>
>> In light of the preceding discussion, we appear to have reached the
>> following understanding:
>>
>> (1) At present we prefer to mitigate slow application startup (e.g.,
>> VM creation) by zeroing huge pages at the moment they are freed
>> (init_on_free). The principal benefit is that user space gains the
>> performance improvement without deploying any additional user space
>> daemon.
>
> Am I missing something?
> If userspace does:
> $ program_a; program_b
> and pages used by program_a are zeroed when it exits you get the delay
> for zeroing all the pages it used before program_b starts.
> OTOH if the zeroing is deferred program_b only needs to zero the pages
> it needs to start (and there may be some lurking).
Can you point me to where was that spelled out as a requirement?
>
> The only real gain has to come from zeroing pages when the system is idle.
> That will give plenty of zeroed pages needed for starting a web browser
> from the desktop and also speed up single-threaded things like 'make -j1'.
I am strictly against over-engineering any features that hugetlb
benefits from only.
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-21 12:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 11:31 Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] mm/hugetlb: add pre-zeroed framework Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] mm/hugetlb: convert to prep_account_new_hugetlb_folio() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] mm/hugetlb: move the huge folio to the end of the list during enqueue Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] mm/hugetlb: introduce per-node sysfs interface "zeroable_hugepages" Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] mm/hugetlb: simplify function hugetlb_sysfs_add_hstate() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] mm/hugetlb: relocate the per-hstate struct kobject pointer Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] mm/hugetlb: add epoll support for interface "zeroable_hugepages" Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] mm/hugetlb: limit event generation frequency of function do_zero_free_notify() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism Andrew Morton
2026-01-12 11:25 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-09 6:05 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-12 11:27 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-12 19:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-13 6:37 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-13 10:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-13 12:41 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-14 10:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 11:36 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-14 11:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 12:11 ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-14 12:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 12:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 13:06 ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-14 17:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 9:36 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-15 11:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 11:57 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-15 17:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 20:16 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-15 20:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 22:30 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-20 6:27 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-20 9:47 ` David Laight
2026-01-20 10:39 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-20 18:18 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-20 18:38 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-20 19:30 ` David Laight
2026-01-20 19:52 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-21 8:03 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-21 12:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-21 12:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2026-01-12 22:00 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-13 6:39 ` Li Zhe
2026-01-12 22:01 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-13 6:41 ` Li Zhe
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