From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Tools for explaining memory mappings/usage/pressure
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 11:05:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <549a3199-2eb5-41b1-a03b-9cc571e72e03@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29c27dab-a590-5df2-c840-279bf9dff090@google.com>
On 7/6/24 10:55 PM, David Rientjes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to crowdsource information on open source tools that can be
> used directly by customers to explain memory mappings, usage, pressure,
> etc.
>
> We encounter both internal and external users that are looking for this
> insight and it often requires significant engineering time to collect data
> to make any conclusions.
>
> A recent example is an external customer that recently upgraded their
> userspace and started to run into memcg constrained memory pressure that
> wasn't previously observed. After handing off a hacky script to run in
> the background, it was immediately obvious that the source of the direct
> reclaim was all of the MADV_FREE memory that was sitting around.
> Converting to MADV_DONTNEED solved their issue.
BTW, was this reported/fixed upstream? Sounds like a bug to me that would
better be fixed than suggesting the MADV_DONTNEED workaround to everyone
from now on.
> A month ago, a different external customer was concerned about increased
> memory access latency in their guest on some instances although there
> were no issues observable on the host. After handing off a hacky script
> to run in the background, it was immediately obvious that memory
> fragmentation was resulting in a large disparity in the number of
> hugepages that were available on some instances.
>
> Rather than hacky scripts that collect things like vmstat, memory.stat,
> buddyinfo, etc, at regular intervals, it would be preferable to hand off
> something more complete. Idea is an open source tool that can be run in
> the background to collect metrics for the system, NUMA nodes, and memcg
> hierarchies, as well as potentially from subsystems in the kernel like
> delay accounting. IOW, I want to be able to say "install ${tool} and send
> over the log file."
>
> Are thre any open source tools that do a good job of this today that I can
> latch onto? If not, sounds like I'll be writing one from scratch. Let me
> know if there's interest in this as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-22 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-06 20:55 David Rientjes
2024-07-07 15:44 ` SeongJae Park
2024-07-08 13:50 ` Dan Schatzberg
2024-07-21 23:05 ` David Rientjes
2024-07-22 22:15 ` Dan Schatzberg
2024-07-22 9:05 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2024-07-22 21:57 ` David Rientjes
2024-12-30 8:15 ` Raghavendra K T
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