From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What to expect with the 2.6 VM
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:05:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <542640000.1057176301@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307021401570.31191-100000@chimarrao.boston.redhat.com>
>> So ether we declare 32bit archs obsolete in production with 2.6, or we
>> drop rmap behind remap_file_pages.
>
>> Something has to change since IMHO in the current 2.5.73 remap_file_pages
>> is nearly useless.
>
> Agreed. What we did for a certain unspecified kernel tree
> at Red Hat was the following:
>
> 1) limit sys_remap_file_pages functionality to shared memory
> segments on ramfs (unswappable) and tmpfs (mostly unswappable;))
>
> 2) have the VMAs with remapped pages in them marked VM_LOCKED
>
> 3) do not set up pte chains for the pages that get mapped with
> install_page
>
> 4) remove said pages from the LRU list, in the ramfs case, they're
> unswappable anyway so we shouldn't have the VM scan them
>
> The only known user of sys_remap_file_pages was more than happy
> to have the functionality limited to just what they actually need,
> in order to get simpler code with less overhead.
>
> Lets face it, nobody is going to use sys_remap_file_pages for
> anything but a database shared memory segment anyway. You don't
> need to care about truncate or the other corner cases.
Well if RH have done this internally, and they invented the thing,
then I see no reason not do that in 2.5 ...
>> Maybe I'm just taking this out of context, and it's twisting my brain,
>> but as far as I know, the nonlinear vma's *are* backed by pte_chains.
>
> Rik:
>
> They are, but IMHO they shouldn't be. The nonlinear vmas are used
> only for database shared memory segments and other "bypass the VM"
> applications, so I don't see any reason why we need to complicate
> things hopelessly in order to deal with corner cases like truncate.
Agreed. Oddly, most of us seem to agree on this ... ;-)
M.
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-01 1:39 Mel Gorman
2003-06-30 17:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-01 20:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:41 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 21:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-01 21:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 9:01 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 2:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-01 3:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:29 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-01 4:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 11:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-07-01 3:25 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 4:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 6:33 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 7:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 8:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 9:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 16:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 17:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 3:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 14:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:45 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:46 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-02 3:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 15:57 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-02 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 17:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 17:52 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 18:05 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-02 20:05 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-07-02 21:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 21:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 22:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 22:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 22:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 23:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 23:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 11:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 12:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 13:06 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-03 13:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 18:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 19:32 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-03 20:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 1:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 2:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 4:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 5:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 8:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-05 0:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 0:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-03 18:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 22:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 0:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 1:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-04 1:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-03 19:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 18:07 ` Rik van Riel
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