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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Qiaowei Ren <qiaowei.ren@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 07/10] x86, mpx: decode MPX instruction to get bound violation information
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:39:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5412F7AB.5040901@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1409121238290.4178@nanos>

On 09/12/2014 06:10 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>
>> I'm not wedded to that concept, by the way, but using the generic parser had a
>> whole bunch of its own problems, including the fact that you're getting bytes
>> from user space.
> 
> Errm. The instruction decoder does not even know about user space.
> 
>       u8 buf[MAX_INSN_SIZE];
> 
>       memset(buf, 0, MAX_INSN_SIZE);
>       if (copy_from_user(buf, addr, MAX_INSN_SIZE))
>       	    return 0;
> 
>       insn_init(insn, buf, is_64bit(current));
> 
>       /* Process the entire instruction */
>       insn_get_length(insn);
> 
>       /* Decode the faulting address */
>       return mpx_get_addr(insn, regs);
> 
> I really can't see why that should not work. insn_get_length()
> retrieves exactly the information which is required to call
> mpx_get_addr().
> 
> Sure it might be a bit slower because the generic decoder does a bit
> more than the mpx private sauce, but this happens in the context of a
> bounds violation and it really does not matter at all whether SIGSEGV
> is delivered 5 microseconds later or not.
> 
> The only difference is the insn->limit handling in the MPX
> decoder. The existing decoder has a limit check of:
> 
> #define MAX_INSN_SIZE       16
> 
> and MPX private one makes that
> 
> #define MAX_MPX_INSN_SIZE   15
> 
> and limits it runtime further to:
> 
>     MAX_MPX_INSN_SIZE - bytes_not_copied_from_user_space;
> 
> This is beyond silly, really. If we cannot copy 16 bytes from user
> space, why bother in dealing with a partial copy at all.
> 

The correct limit is 15 bytes, not anything else, so this is a bug in
the existing decoder.  A sequence of bytes longer than 15 bytes will
#UD, regardless of being "otherwise valid".

Keep in mind the instruction may not be aligned, and you could fit an
instruction plus a jump and still overrun a page in 15 bytes.

> Aside of that the existing decoder handles the 32bit app on a 64bit
> kernel already correctly while the extra magic MPX decoder does
> not. It just adds some magically optimized and different copy of the
> existing decoder for exactly ZERO value.
> 
>> It might be worthwhile to compare the older patchset which did use the generic
>> parser to make sure that it actually made sense.
> 
> I can't find such a thing. The first version I found contains an even
> more convoluted private parser. Intelnal mail perhaps?

Yes, I suspect so.

	-hpa

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-12 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-11  8:46 [PATCH v8 00/10] Intel MPX support Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] x86, mpx: introduce VM_MPX to indicate that a VMA is MPX specific Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] x86, mpx: add MPX specific mmap interface Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] x86, mpx: add macro cpu_has_mpx Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] x86, mpx: hook #BR exception handler to allocate bound tables Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-12 22:58   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-13  7:24     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-24 14:40   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] x86, mpx: extend siginfo structure to include bound violation information Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] mips: sync struct siginfo with general version Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11 22:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12  2:54     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-12  8:17       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-13  7:13         ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] x86, mpx: decode MPX instruction to get bound violation information Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11 22:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-11 22:32     ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-11 22:35       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-11 23:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12  4:44           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-12 13:10             ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 13:39               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-09-12 17:48                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 17:52         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 19:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] x86, mpx: add prctl commands PR_MPX_REGISTER, PR_MPX_UNREGISTER Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11 15:03   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12  3:10     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-11 23:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12  0:10     ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12  8:11       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12  9:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 14:36           ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12 17:34             ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 18:42               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 20:35                 ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12 20:18               ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-13  9:01                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 15:22         ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12 17:42           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 20:33             ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-15  0:00   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-16  3:20     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-16  4:17       ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-16  7:50   ` Kevin Easton
2014-09-18  0:40     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-18  3:23       ` Kevin Easton
2014-09-18  2:37         ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-18  4:43         ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-18  7:17           ` Kevin Easton
2014-09-18  6:20             ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] x86, mpx: cleanup unused bound tables Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-11 14:59   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12  3:02     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-12  4:59       ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-15 20:53   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-16  8:06     ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-09-11  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] x86, mpx: add documentation on Intel MPX Qiaowei Ren
2014-09-12  0:51 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Intel MPX support Dave Hansen
2014-09-12 19:21   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 21:23     ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-13  9:25       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-12 21:31     ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-12 22:08     ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-13  9:39       ` Thomas Gleixner

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