From: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
willy@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync only the requested range in msync
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:50:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5374B824.2090403@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49y4y54xgq.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
On 05/13/2014 09:31 AM, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:11:15 -0700 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:02:41PM -0400, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>> [untested. posted because it keeps coming up at lsfmm/collab]
>>>>
>>>> msync() currently syncs more than POSIX requires or BSD or Solaris
>>>> implement. It is supposed to be equivalent to fdatasync(), not fsync(),
>>>> and it is only supposed to sync the portion of the file that overlaps
>>>> the range passed to msync.
>>>>
>>>> If the VMA is non-linear, fall back to syncing the entire file, but we
>>>> still optimise to only fdatasync() the entire file, not the full fsync().
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>
>>>
>>> Looks good,
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
>>
>> I worry that if there are people who are relying on the current
>> behaviour (knowingly or not!) then this patch will put their data at
>> risk and nobody will ever know. Until that data gets lost, that is.
>> At some level of cautiousness, this is one of those things we can never
>> fix.
>>
>> I suppose we could add an msync2() syscall with the new behaviour so
>> people can migrate over. That would be very cheap to do.
>>
>> It's hard to know what's the right thing to do here.
>
> FWIW, I think we should apply the patch. Anyone using the API properly
> will not get the desired result, and it could have a negative impact on
> performance. The man page is very explicit on what you should expect,
> here. Anyone relying on undocumented behavior gets to keep both pieces
> when it breaks. That said, I do understand your viewpoint, Andrew,
> especially since it's so hard to get people to sync their data at all,
> much less correctly.
>
> Acked-by: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Maybe we can talk someone with all of linux in a repository to grep for
msync calls that even specify a range at all?
Eric did this for 64 bit inodes a few years ago, and it wouldn't hurt to
have a little data on how common this is.
I think for msync the list will be much shorter and easier to audit.
-chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-15 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-27 23:02 Matthew Wilcox
2014-04-23 14:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-12 23:39 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-13 13:31 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-05-15 11:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-15 12:50 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2014-05-20 22:58 ` Andrew Morton
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