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From: sagi grimberg <sagig@mellanox.com>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: j.glisse@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linda Wang <lwang@redhat.com>, Kevin E Martin <kem@redhat.com>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
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	Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Shachar Raindel <raindel@mellanox.com>,
	Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@purestorage.com>,
	"Sander, Ben" <ben.sander@amd.com>,
	"Stoner, Greg" <Greg.Stoner@amd.com>,
	"Bridgman, John" <John.Bridgman@amd.com>,
	"Mantor, Michael" <Michael.Mantor@amd.com>,
	"Blinzer, Paul" <Paul.Blinzer@amd.com>,
	"Morichetti, Laurent" <Laurent.Morichetti@amd.com>,
	"Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	"Gabbay, Oded" <Oded.Gabbay@amd.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Heterogeneous memory management (mirror process address space on a device mmu).
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 19:47:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <536BB508.2020704@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399429987.2581.25.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>

On 5/7/2014 5:33 AM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 12:29 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> So you forgot to CC Linus, Linus has expressed some dislike for
>> preemptible mmu_notifiers in the recent past:
>>
>>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/9/30/385
> I'm glad this came up again.
>
> So I've been running benchmarks (mostly aim7, which nicely exercises our
> locks) comparing my recent v4 for rwsem optimistic spinning against
> previous implementation ideas for the anon-vma lock, mostly:
>
> - rwsem (currently)
> - rwlock_t
> - qrwlock_t
> - rwsem+optspin
>
> Of course, *any* change provides significant improvement in throughput
> for several workloads, by avoiding to block -- there are more
> performance numbers in the different patches. This is fairly obvious.
>
> What is perhaps not so obvious is that rwsem+optimistic spinning beats
> all others, including the improved qrwlock from Waiman and Peter. This
> is mostly because of the idea of cancelable MCS, which was mimic'ed from
> mutexes. The delta in most cases is around +10-15%, which is non
> trivial.

These are great news David!

> I mention this because from a performance PoV, we'll stop caring so much
> about the type of lock we require in the notifier related code. So while
> this is not conclusive, I'm not as opposed to keeping the locks blocking
> as I once was. Now this might still imply things like poor design
> choices, but that's neither here nor there.

So is the rwsem+opt strategy the way to go Given it keeps everyone happy?
We will be more than satisfied with it as it will allow us to guarantee 
device
MMU update.

> /me sees Sagi smiling ;)

:)

Sagi.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-08 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02 13:51 j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm: differentiate unmap for vmscan from other unmap j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 02/11] mmu_notifier: add action information to address invalidation j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 03/11] mmu_notifier: pass through vma to invalidate_range and invalidate_page j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 04/11] interval_tree: helper to find previous item of a node in rb interval tree j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 05/11] mm/memcg: support accounting null page and transfering null charge to new page j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 06/11] hmm: heterogeneous memory management j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 07/11] hmm: support moving anonymous page to remote memory j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 08/11] hmm: support for migrate file backed pages " j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 09/11] fs/ext4: add support for hmm migration to remote memory of pagecache j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 10/11] hmm/dummy: dummy driver to showcase the hmm api j.glisse
2014-05-02 13:52 ` [PATCH 11/11] hmm/dummy_driver: add support for fake remote memory using pages j.glisse
2014-05-06 10:29 ` [RFC] Heterogeneous memory management (mirror process address space on a device mmu) Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 14:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 15:00     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 15:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 15:33         ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 15:42           ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 15:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 16:18             ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 16:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 16:49                 ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 17:28                 ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 17:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 18:13                     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 18:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 18:38                         ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-07  7:18                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-07  7:14               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-07 12:39                 ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-09  1:26                 ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-10  4:28                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-11  0:48                     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 16:30             ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 16:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-06 16:47                 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 16:54                   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 18:02                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06 18:26                       ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-06 22:44                 ` David Airlie
2014-05-07  2:33   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-07 13:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 17:34       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-07 16:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-08 16:47     ` sagi grimberg [this message]
2014-05-08 17:56       ` Jerome Glisse
2014-05-09  1:42         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-09  1:45           ` Jerome Glisse

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