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From: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Robert Love <rlove@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Volatile Ranges (v12) & LSF-MM discussion fodder
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:01:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533B4555.3000608@sr71.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <533B313E.5000403@zytor.com>

On 04/01/2014 02:35 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 04/01/2014 02:21 PM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>> Either way, optimistic volatile pointers are nowhere near as
>> transparent to the application as the above description suggests,
>> which makes this usecase not very interesting, IMO.
> 
> ... however, I think you're still derating the value way too much.  The
> case of user space doing elastic memory management is more and more
> common, and for a lot of those applications it is perfectly reasonable
> to either not do system calls or to have to devolatilize first.

The SIGBUS is only in cases where the memory is set as volatile and
_then_ accessed, right?

John, this was something that the Mozilla guys asked for, right?  Any
idea why this isn't ever a problem for them?

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-01 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-21 21:17 John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] vrange: Add vrange syscall and handle splitting/merging and marking vmas John Stultz
2014-03-23 12:20   ` Jan Kara
2014-03-23 20:34     ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 16:50   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-08 18:52     ` John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 2/5] vrange: Add purged page detection on setting memory non-volatile John Stultz
2014-03-23 12:29   ` Jan Kara
2014-03-23 20:21     ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 17:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-07 18:37     ` John Stultz
2014-04-07 22:14       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-08  3:09         ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 17:50   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-03-23 20:26     ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 21:50       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-09 18:29         ` John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 3/5] vrange: Add page purging logic & SIGBUS trap John Stultz
2014-03-23 23:44   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-10 18:49     ` John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 4/5] vrange: Set affected pages referenced when marking volatile John Stultz
2014-03-24  0:01   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Age anonymous memory even when swap is off John Stultz
2014-03-24 17:33   ` Rik van Riel
2014-03-24 18:04     ` John Stultz
2014-04-01 21:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] Volatile Ranges (v12) & LSF-MM discussion fodder Johannes Weiner
2014-04-01 21:34   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-01 21:35   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-01 23:01     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2014-04-02  4:12       ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 16:36         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 17:40           ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 17:58             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 19:01               ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 19:47                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 20:13                   ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 22:44                     ` Jan Kara
2014-04-11 19:32                     ` John Stultz
2014-04-07  5:48             ` Minchan Kim
2014-04-08  4:32             ` Kevin Easton
2014-04-08  3:38               ` John Stultz
2014-04-07  5:24           ` Minchan Kim
2014-04-02  4:03   ` John Stultz
2014-04-02  4:07     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-02 16:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 16:32       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-02 16:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-02 17:18           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 17:40             ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-02 17:48               ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 18:07                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 19:37                   ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 18:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-04-02 19:27       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-07  6:19         ` Minchan Kim
2014-04-02 19:51       ` John Stultz
2014-04-07  6:11       ` Minchan Kim

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