From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
riel@surriel.com, ziy@nvidia.com, laoar.shao@gmail.com,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, npache@redhat.com,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] prctl: introduce PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_HUGE for the process
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 21:20:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52f12b89-84a1-49ec-a2d2-d710b02218de@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yec4eqg73qejlnmtckwjiexelswcxf3l5ctoaphq6ugyp3tu3e@vmex647zbp52>
On 15.05.25 20:09, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> * David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> [250515 13:30]:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did we document all this? :)
>>>
>>> It'd be good to be super explicit about these sorts of 'dependency chains'.
>>>
>>
>> Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst has under "Global THP controls"
>> quite some stuff about all that, yes.
>>
>> The whole document needs an overhaul, to clarify on the whole terminology,
>> make it consistent, and better explain how the pagecache behaves etc. On my
>> todo list, but I'm afraid it will be a bit of work to get it right / please
>> most people.
>
> Yes, the whole thing is making me grumpy (more than my default state).
> The more I think about it, the more I don't like the prctl approach
> either...
>
> I more than dislike flags2... I hate it.
>
> but no prctl, no cgroups, no bpf.. what is left? A new policy groups
> thing? No, not that either, please.
>
> To state the obvious, none of this is transparent.
New to the "transparent" huge page world where not that much is
"transparent"!?
It's completely in-transparent to most people how it works :D
Yeah, that's why I suggested to piggyback on VM_HUGEPAGE/VM_NOHUGEPAGE.
Something we already have and that we will probably have for a long time
... :)
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 13:33 [PATCH 0/6] prctl: introduce PR_SET/GET_THP_POLICY Usama Arif
2025-05-15 13:33 ` [PATCH 1/6] prctl: introduce PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_HUGE for the process Usama Arif
2025-05-15 14:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 14:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 14:56 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-15 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 15:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 15:45 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-15 15:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 16:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 17:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 18:09 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-15 18:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 18:42 ` Zi Yan
2025-05-15 21:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 18:46 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-15 19:20 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-15 15:28 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-15 16:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 16:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 18:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 19:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 20:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-16 7:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-16 10:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-16 11:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-16 12:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-16 17:19 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-16 17:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-16 19:34 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-17 16:20 ` Is number of process_madvise()-able ranges limited to 8? (was Re: [PATCH 1/6] prctl: introduce PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_HUGE for the process) SeongJae Park
2025-05-17 18:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-17 20:25 ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-17 19:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] prctl: introduce PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_HUGE for the process Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 16:47 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-15 18:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 19:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 20:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-16 6:12 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-15 13:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] prctl: introduce PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_NOHUGE " Usama Arif
2025-05-16 8:19 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-15 13:33 ` [PATCH 3/6] prctl: introduce PR_THP_POLICY_SYSTEM " Usama Arif
2025-05-15 13:33 ` [PATCH 4/6] selftests: prctl: introduce tests for PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_NOHUGE Usama Arif
2025-05-15 13:33 ` [PATCH 5/6] selftests: prctl: introduce tests for PR_THP_POLICY_DEFAULT_HUGE Usama Arif
2025-05-15 13:33 ` [PATCH 6/6] docs: transhuge: document process level THP controls Usama Arif
2025-05-15 13:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] prctl: introduce PR_SET/GET_THP_POLICY Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 14:50 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-15 15:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-15 15:54 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-15 16:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-15 16:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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