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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linmiaohe@huawei.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: fix hwpoisoned large folio handling in shrink_folio_list
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 21:27:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52d16469-8df6-4ee5-bc6f-97c5557f7aa1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd039627-0a5c-eae2-2f63-8196655b95ba@huawei.com>

On 16.06.25 13:33, Jinjiang Tu wrote:
> 
> 在 2025/6/12 23:50, David Hildenbrand 写道:
>> On 12.06.25 17:35, Zi Yan wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun 2025, at 3:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11.06.25 19:52, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>> On 11 Jun 2025, at 13:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So __folio_split() has an implicit rule that:
>>>>>>> 1. if the given list is not NULL, the folio cannot be on LRU;
>>>>>>> 2. if the given list is NULL, the folio is on LRU.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the rule is buried deeply in lru_add_split_folio().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we add some checks in __folio_split()?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>>>>> index d3e66136e41a..8ce2734c9ca0 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>>>>> @@ -3732,6 +3732,11 @@ static int __folio_split(struct folio
>>>>>>> *folio, unsigned int new_order,
>>>>>>>          VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(!folio_test_locked(folio), folio);
>>>>>>>          VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(!folio_test_large(folio), folio);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +    if (list && folio_test_lru(folio))
>>>>>>> +        return -EINVAL;
>>>>>>> +    if (!list && !folio_test_lru(folio))
>>>>>>> +        return -EINVAL;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we currently don't run into that, because whenever a folio
>>>>>> is otherwise isolated, there is an additional reference or a page
>>>>>> table mapping, so it cannot get split either way (e.g., freezing
>>>>>> the refcount fails).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So maybe these checks would be too early and they should happen
>>>>>> after we froze the refcount?
>>>>>
>>>>> But if the caller does the isolation, the additional refcount is OK
>>>>> and
>>>>> can_split_folio() will return true. In addition, __folio_split()
>>>>> does not
>>>>> change folio LRU state, so these two checks are orthogonal to refcount
>>>>> check, right? The placement of them does not matter, but earlier
>>>>> the better
>>>>> to avoid unnecessary work. I see these are sanity checks for callers.
>>>>
>>>> In light of the discussion in this thread, if you have someone that
>>>> takes the folio off the LRU concurrently, I think we could still run
>>>> into a race here. Because that could happen just after we passed the
>>>> test in __folio_split().
>>>>
>>>> That's why I think the test would have to happen when there are no
>>>> such races possible anymore.
>>>
>>> Make sense. Thanks for the explanation.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But the real question is if it is okay to remove the folio from the
>>>> LRU as done in the patch discussed here ...
>>>
>>> I just read through the email thread. IIUC, when
>>> deferred_split_scan() split
>>> a THP, it expects the THP is on LRU list. I think it makes sense since
>>> all these THPs are in both the deferred_split_queue and LRU list.
>>> And deferred_split_scan() uses split_folio() without providing a list
>>> to store the after-split folios.
>>>
>>> In terms of the patch, since unmap_poisoned_folio() does not handle
>>> large
>>> folios, why not just split the large folios and add the after-split
>>> folios
>>> to folio_list?
>>
>> That's what I raised, but apparently it might not be worth it for that
>> corner case (splitting might fail).
>>
>> Then, the while loop will go over all the after-split folios
>>> one by one.
>>>
>>> BTW, unmap_poisoned_folio() is also used in do_migrate_range() from
>>> memory_hotplug.c and there is no guard for large folios either. That
>>> also needs a fix?
>>
>> Yes, that was mentioned, and I was hoping we could let
>> unmap_poisoned_folio() check+fail in that case.
> 
> Maybe we could fix do_migrate_range() like below:
> 
> diff --git a/mm/memory_hotplug.c b/mm/memory_hotplug.c
> index 8305483de38b..5a6d869e6b56 100644
> --- a/mm/memory_hotplug.c
> +++ b/mm/memory_hotplug.c
> @@ -1823,7 +1823,10 @@ static void do_migrate_range(unsigned long
> start_pfn, unsigned long end_pfn)
>                           pfn = folio_pfn(folio) + folio_nr_pages(folio) - 1;
> 
>                   if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(folio)) {
> -                       if (WARN_ON(folio_test_lru(folio)))
> +                       if (folio_test_large(folio))
> +                               goto put_folio;
> +
> +                       if (folio_test_lru(folio))
 >                                   folio_isolate_lru(folio);

Hm, what is supposed to happen if we fail folio_isolate_lru()?

>                           if (folio_mapped(folio)) {
>                                   folio_lock(folio);
> 
> The folio may be on lru, if folio_test_lru() check happens between
> setting hwposion flag and isolating from lru in memory_failure().
> So, I remove the WARN_ON.

I guess this would work, although this special-casing on large folios in 
the caller of unmap_poisoned_folio() is rather weird.

What is supposed to happen if unmap_poisoned_folio() failed for small 
folios? Why are we okay with having the LRU flag cleared and the folio 
isolated?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11  7:46 Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-11  7:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  8:29   ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-11  8:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  9:00       ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-11  9:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  9:24           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 14:30             ` Zi Yan
2025-06-11 17:34               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 17:52                 ` Zi Yan
2025-06-12  7:53                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 15:35                     ` Zi Yan
2025-06-12 15:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 16:48                         ` Zi Yan
2025-06-16 11:34                           ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-16 11:33                         ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-16 19:27                           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-17  6:43                             ` Jinjiang Tu

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