From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:56:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52533C12.9090007@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1380761503-14509-6-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org>
On 10/02/2013 05:51 PM, John Stultz wrote:
> From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
>
> This patch adds new system call sys_vrange.
>
> NAME
> vrange - Mark or unmark range of memory as volatile
>
vrange() is about as nondescriptive as one can get -- there is exactly
one letter that has any connection with that this does.
> SYNOPSIS
> int vrange(unsigned_long start, size_t length, int mode,
> int *purged);
>
> DESCRIPTION
> Applications can use vrange(2) to advise the kernel how it should
> handle paging I/O in this VM area. The idea is to help the kernel
> discard pages of vrange instead of reclaiming when memory pressure
> happens. It means kernel doesn't discard any pages of vrange if
> there is no memory pressure.
>
> mode:
> VRANGE_VOLATILE
> hint to kernel so VM can discard in vrange pages when
> memory pressure happens.
> VRANGE_NONVOLATILE
> hint to kernel so VM doesn't discard vrange pages
> any more.
>
> If user try to access purged memory without VRANGE_NOVOLATILE call,
> he can encounter SIGBUS if the page was discarded by kernel.
>
> purged: Pointer to an integer which will return 1 if
> mode == VRANGE_NONVOLATILE and any page in the affected range
> was purged. If purged returns zero during a mode ==
> VRANGE_NONVOLATILE call, it means all of the pages in the range
> are intact.
I'm a bit confused about the "purged"
>From an earlier version of the patch:
> - What's different with madvise(DONTNEED)?
>
> System call semantic
>
> DONTNEED makes sure user always can see zero-fill pages after
> he calls madvise while vrange can see data or encounter SIGBUS.
This difference doesn't seem to be a huge one. The other one seems to
be the blocking status of MADV_DONTNEED, which perhaps may be better
handled by adding an option (MADV_LAZY) perhaps?
That way we would have lazy vs. immediate, and zero versus SIGBUS.
I see from the change history of the patch that this was an madvise() at
some point, but was changed into a separate system call at some point,
does anyone remember why that was? A quick look through my LKML
archives doesn't really make it clear.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-07 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-03 0:51 [PATCH 00/14] Volatile Ranges v9 John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 01/14] vrange: Add basic data structure and functions John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 02/14] vrange: Add vrange support to mm_structs John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 03/14] vrange: Clear volatility on new mmaps John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 04/14] vrange: Add support for volatile ranges on file mappings John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call John Stultz
2013-10-07 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-10-07 23:14 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:41 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:54 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-08 0:13 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:18 ` John Stultz
2013-10-08 0:34 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:38 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 1:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-08 2:08 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 2:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08 3:07 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 4:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08 7:12 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 7:17 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:07 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 06/14] vrange: Add basic functions to purge volatile pages John Stultz
2013-10-03 10:22 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 07/14] vrange: Purge volatile pages when memory is tight John Stultz
2013-10-08 3:27 ` Zhan Jianyu
2013-10-08 16:22 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 08/14] vrange: Send SIGBUS when user try to access purged page John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 09/14] vrange: Add vrange LRU list for purging John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 10/14] vrange: Add core shrinking logic for swapless system John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 11/14] vrange: Purging vrange-anon pages from shrinker John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 12/14] vrange: Support background purging for vrange-file John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 13/14] vrange: Allocate vroot dynamically John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 14/14] vrange: Add vmstat counter about purged page John Stultz
2013-10-03 23:56 ` [PATCH 00/14] Volatile Ranges v9 John Stultz
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