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From: Chen Gang <gang.chen@asianux.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	riel@redhat.com, hughd@google.com, xemul@parallels.com,
	Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/shmem.c: check the return value of mpol_to_str()
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:13:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5231313D.5040504@asianux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <523124B7.8070408@gmail.com>

On 09/12/2013 10:19 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> (9/11/13 8:33 PM), David Rientjes wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Chen Gang wrote:
>>
>>>> Why?  It can just store the string into the buffer pointed to by the
>>>> char *buffer and terminate it appropriately while taking care that it
>>>> doesn't exceed maxlen.  Why does the caller need to know the number of
>>>> bytes written?  If it really does, you could just do strlen(buffer).
>>>>
>>>> If there's a real reason for it, then that's fine, I just think it
>>>> can be
>>>> made to always succeed and never return < 0.  (And why is nobody
>>>> checking
>>>> the return value today if it's so necessary?)
>>>>
>>>
>>> For common printing functions: sprintf(), snprintf(), scnprintf().
>>>
>>> For some of specific printing functions: drivers/usb/host/uhci-debug.c.
>>>
>>> at least they can let caller easy use.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody needs mpol_to_str() to return the number of characters written,
>> period.  It's one of the most trivial functions you're going to see in
>> the
>> mempolicy code, it takes a pointer to a buffer and it stores
>> characters to
>> it for display.  Nobody is going to use it for anything else.  Let's not
>> overcomplicate this trivial function.
>>
>>>> Nobody is using mpol_to_str() to determine if a mempolicy mode is
>>>> valid :)
>>>> If the struct mempolicy really has a bad mode, then just store
>>>> "unknown"
>>>> or store a 0.  If maxlen is insufficient for the longest possible
>>>> string
>>>> stored by mpol_to_str(), then it should be a compile-time error.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm... what you said sounds reasonable if mpol_to_str() is a normal
>>> static funciton (only used within a file).
>>>
>>> For extern function, callee (inside) can not assume anything of caller
>>> (outside) beyond the interface. So if failure occurs, better to report
>>> to caller only, and let caller to check what to do next.
>>>
>>
>> Are you just preaching about the best practices of software engineering?
>> mpol_to_str() should never fail at runtime, plain and simple.  If
>> somebody
>> introduces a new mode and doesn't update it to print correctly, let's not
>> fail the read().  Let's just print "unknown".  And if someone passes too
>> small of a buffer, break it at compile time so it gets noticed and fixed.
>>
>> I guarantee you that any kernel developer who writes code to call
>> mpol_to_str() will be happy it never fails at runtime.  Really.
> 
> Agreed. Even though we don't change mpol_to_str() interface, please just
> add BUG_ON into shmem_show_mpol(). It is much simpler than current
> proposal.
> 

Hmm... that is simpler and clearer for writers, but may not for readers.

> At least, currently mpol_to_str() already have following assertion. I mean,
> the code assume every developer know maximum length of mempolicy. I have no
> seen any reason to bring addional complication to shmem area.
> 
> 
>     /*
>      * Sanity check:  room for longest mode, flag and some nodes
>      */
>     VM_BUG_ON(maxlen < strlen("interleave") + strlen("relative") + 16);
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Hmm... *BUG_ON() is for protecting the OS continue blindly, can we be
sure: "in current condition, OS is continuing blindly?"

If an extern function's parameter is invalid, it mainly means caller
incorrectly use the function (which need return -EINVAL), not means "the
OS is continuing blindly".


Thanks.
-- 
Chen Gang

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20  3:56 [PATCH 0/3] mm: mempolicy: the failure processing about mpol_to_str() Chen Gang
2013-08-20  3:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/mempolicy.c: still fill buffer as full as possible when buffer space is not enough in mpol_to_str() Chen Gang
2013-08-20  3:58   ` [PATCH 2/3] fs/proc/task_mmu.c: check the return value of mpol_to_str() Chen Gang
2013-08-20  3:59     ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/shmem.c: " Chen Gang
2013-08-20  5:30 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: mempolicy: the failure processing about mpol_to_str() Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-20  5:41   ` Chen Gang
2013-08-20  6:47     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-20  7:48       ` Chen Gang
2013-08-20  7:51         ` Chen Gang
2013-08-20  8:09           ` Chen Gang
2013-08-20  8:13             ` Chen Gang F T
2013-08-20  8:20               ` Chen Gang
2013-08-20  8:25             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-20  8:31               ` Chen Gang
2013-08-21  2:21               ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: shmem: check the return value of mpol_to_str() Chen Gang
2013-08-21  2:22                 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs/proc/task_mmu.c: " Chen Gang
2013-08-21  2:23                   ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/shmem.c: let shmem_show_mpol() return value Chen Gang
2013-08-21  2:24                     ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/shmem.c: check the return value of mpol_to_str() Chen Gang
2013-08-21 22:03                     ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/shmem.c: let shmem_show_mpol() return value Andrew Morton
2013-08-22  0:52                       ` Chen Gang
2013-08-22  1:04                         ` [PATCH] mm/shmem.c: check the return value of mpol_to_str() Chen Gang
2013-09-03  5:32                           ` Chen Gang
2013-09-05  0:24                           ` [PATCH v2] " Chen Gang
2013-09-09 20:30                             ` David Rientjes
2013-09-10  0:47                               ` Chen Gang
2013-09-10  6:43                                 ` David Rientjes
2013-09-10  7:01                                   ` Chen Gang
2013-09-12  0:33                                     ` David Rientjes
2013-09-12  2:19                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-09-12  3:13                                         ` Chen Gang [this message]
2013-09-13 21:12                                         ` David Rientjes
2013-09-14  2:51                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-09-16  3:27                                             ` Chen Gang
2013-09-16 20:13                                               ` David Rientjes
2013-09-17  0:45                                                 ` Chen Gang
2013-09-17 22:51                                                   ` David Rientjes
2013-09-18  1:20                                                     ` Chen Gang
2013-09-12  3:02                                       ` Chen Gang
2013-09-12 18:19                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-09-13  2:23                                           ` Chen Gang
2013-09-13 16:50                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-09-16  2:55                                               ` Chen Gang
2013-09-16 16:16                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-09-17  1:10                                                   ` Chen Gang
2013-09-17 22:53                                                     ` David Rientjes
2013-09-18  1:37                                                       ` Chen Gang
2013-09-18 22:17                                                         ` David Rientjes
2013-09-13 21:14                                         ` David Rientjes
2013-09-16  3:17                                           ` Chen Gang
2013-09-25  2:58                             ` [patch] mm, mempolicy: make mpol_to_str robust and always succeed David Rientjes
2013-09-25  3:11                               ` Dave Jones
2013-09-25  3:18                                 ` David Rientjes
2013-09-25  3:25                                   ` Dave Jones
2013-09-25 17:58                                     ` David Rientjes
2013-09-25 21:30                                       ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-25 22:06                                         ` David Rientjes
2013-08-21  5:31                 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: shmem: check the return value of mpol_to_str() Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21  5:48                   ` Chen Gang
2013-09-19  0:31 [PATCH v2] mm/shmem.c: " Chen,Gang( 陈刚)
     [not found] <20130919003142.B72EC1840296@intranet.asianux.com>
2013-09-23 21:46 ` David Rientjes
2013-09-24  2:28   ` Chen Gang

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