From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@gmail.com>,
devel@openvz.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fsio: filesystem io accounting cgroup
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:15:14 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DC0CE2.2050906@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130709125734.GA2478@htj.dyndns.org>
Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 12:28:15PM +0400, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> Yep, blkio has plenty problems and flaws and I don't get how it's related
>> to vfs layer, dirty set control and non-disk or network backed filesystems.
>> Any problem can be fixed by introducing new abstract layer, except too many
>> abstraction levels. Cgroup is pluggable subsystem, blkio has it's own plugins
>> and it's build on top of io scheduler plugin. All this stuff always have worked
>
> What does that have to do with anything?
>
>> with block devices. Now you suggest to handle all filesystems in this stack.
>> I think binding them to unrealated cgroup is rough leveling violation.
>
> How is blkio unrelated to filesystems mounted on block devices?
> You're suggesting a duplicate solution which can't be complete.
blkio controls block devices. not filesystems or superblocks or bdi or pagecache.
It's all about block layer and nothing more. Am I right?
So, you want to link some completely unrelated subsystems like NFS into the block layer?
>
>> NFS cannot be controlled only by network throttlers because we
>> cannot slow down writeback process when it happens, we must slow
>> down tasks who generates dirty memory.
>
> That's exactly the same problem why blkio doesn't work for async IOs
> right now, so if you're interested in the area, please contribute to
> fixing that problem.
>
>> Plus it's close to impossible to separate several workloads if they
>> share one NFS sb.
>
> Again, the same problem with blkio. We need separate pressure
> channels on bdi for each cgroup.
>
> Thanks.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-09 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-08 10:01 Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-08 17:00 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-08 17:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-08 17:56 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 8:28 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-09 12:57 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 13:15 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov [this message]
2013-07-09 13:16 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 13:16 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 13:43 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-09 13:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 14:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-09 14:29 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 14:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-09 15:08 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130710030955.GA3569@redhat.com>
2013-07-10 3:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 14:35 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-09 14:42 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-09 15:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-09 17:42 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-09 18:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-09 20:54 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-08 18:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-09 15:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-09 17:12 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-07-08 9:59 Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-10 4:43 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-07-10 6:03 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-07-10 8:37 ` Sha Zhengju
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