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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	hughd@google.com, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 06/35] mm: new shrinker API
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:58:04 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B0410C.9030908@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130605160751.499f0ebb35e89a80dd7931f2@linux-foundation.org>

On 06/06/2013 03:07 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon,  3 Jun 2013 23:29:35 +0400 Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org> wrote:
> 
>> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
>>
>> The current shrinker callout API uses an a single shrinker call for
>> multiple functions. To determine the function, a special magical
>> value is passed in a parameter to change the behaviour. This
>> complicates the implementation and return value specification for
>> the different behaviours.
>>
>> Separate the two different behaviours into separate operations, one
>> to return a count of freeable objects in the cache, and another to
>> scan a certain number of objects in the cache for freeing. In
>> defining these new operations, ensure the return values and
>> resultant behaviours are clearly defined and documented.
>>
>> Modify shrink_slab() to use the new API and implement the callouts
>> for all the existing shrinkers.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> --- a/include/linux/shrinker.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/shrinker.h
>> @@ -4,31 +4,47 @@
>>  /*
>>   * This struct is used to pass information from page reclaim to the shrinkers.
>>   * We consolidate the values for easier extention later.
>> + *
>> + * The 'gfpmask' refers to the allocation we are currently trying to
>> + * fulfil.
>> + *
>> + * Note that 'shrink' will be passed nr_to_scan == 0 when the VM is
>> + * querying the cache size, so a fastpath for that case is appropriate.
>>   */
>>  struct shrink_control {
>>  	gfp_t gfp_mask;
>>  
>>  	/* How many slab objects shrinker() should scan and try to reclaim */
>> -	unsigned long nr_to_scan;
>> +	long nr_to_scan;
> 
> Why this change?
> 
> (I might have asked this before, but because the changelog wasn't
> updated, you get to answer it again!)
> 

There were various reasons to have a signed quantity for nr_to_scan, I
believe I fixed all of them by now. We still want the lru nr_items to be
a signed quantity, but this one can go. I will make sure of that, and
shout if there is any impediment still.

>>  };
>>  
>>  /*
>>   * A callback you can register to apply pressure to ageable caches.
>>   *
>> - * 'sc' is passed shrink_control which includes a count 'nr_to_scan'
>> - * and a 'gfpmask'.  It should look through the least-recently-used
>> - * 'nr_to_scan' entries and attempt to free them up.  It should return
>> - * the number of objects which remain in the cache.  If it returns -1, it means
>> - * it cannot do any scanning at this time (eg. there is a risk of deadlock).
>> + * @shrink() should look through the least-recently-used 'nr_to_scan' entries
>> + * and attempt to free them up.  It should return the number of objects which
>> + * remain in the cache.  If it returns -1, it means it cannot do any scanning at
>> + * this time (eg. there is a risk of deadlock).
>>   *
>> - * The 'gfpmask' refers to the allocation we are currently trying to
>> - * fulfil.
>> + * @count_objects should return the number of freeable items in the cache. If
>> + * there are no objects to free or the number of freeable items cannot be
>> + * determined, it should return 0. No deadlock checks should be done during the
>> + * count callback - the shrinker relies on aggregating scan counts that couldn't
>> + * be executed due to potential deadlocks to be run at a later call when the
>> + * deadlock condition is no longer pending.
>>   *
>> - * Note that 'shrink' will be passed nr_to_scan == 0 when the VM is
>> - * querying the cache size, so a fastpath for that case is appropriate.
>> + * @scan_objects will only be called if @count_objects returned a positive
>> + * value for the number of freeable objects.
> 
> Saying "positive value" implies to me that count_objects() can return a
> negative code, but such a thing is not documented here.  If
> count_objects() *doesn't* return a -ve code then s/positive/non-zero/
> here would clear up confusion.
> 
Ok, I will update.

>> The callout should scan the cache
>> + * and attempt to free items from the cache. It should then return the number of
>> + * objects freed during the scan, or -1 if progress cannot be made due to
>> + * potential deadlocks. If -1 is returned, then no further attempts to call the
>> + * @scan_objects will be made from the current reclaim context.
>>   */
>>  struct shrinker {
>>  	int (*shrink)(struct shrinker *, struct shrink_control *sc);
>> +	long (*count_objects)(struct shrinker *, struct shrink_control *sc);
>> +	long (*scan_objects)(struct shrinker *, struct shrink_control *sc);
> 
> As these both return counts-of-things, one would expect the return type
> to be unsigned.
> 
> I assume that scan_objects was made signed for the "return -1" thing,
> although that might not have been the best decision - it could return
> ~0UL, for example.
> 

Ok. By using long we are already limiting the amount of scanned objects
to half the size of an int anyway, so separating a special value won't hurt.

> It's unclear why count_objects() returns a signed quantity.
> 
> 
I can only guess, but I believe Dave originally just wanted them
symmetrical, for it was a slightly mechanical conversion.

The only benefit that can come from count_objects returning -1, is
catching conversion bugs. We had already caught one like this. Like a
shrinker is returning count < 0 because it was mistakenly converted, and
the "return -1" that existed before ended up in count and scan.

Since this have already proved useful once, how about we leave it like
this, give it some time in linux-next (I have audited Dave's conversion,
but very honestly I obviously haven't stressed tested all possible
drivers that have shrinkers).

vmscan have a WARN_ON() testing for that, so we'll know. I can provide
another patch to fix that after a while.

Would that work for you ?

>>  	int seeks;	/* seeks to recreate an obj */
>>  	long batch;	/* reclaim batch size, 0 = default */
>>  
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index b1b38ad..6ac3ec2 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -205,19 +205,19 @@ static inline int do_shrinker_shrink(struct shrinker *shrinker,
>>   *
>>   * Returns the number of slab objects which we shrunk.
>>   */
>> -unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
>> +unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrinkctl,
>>  			  unsigned long nr_pages_scanned,
>>  			  unsigned long lru_pages)
>>  {
>>  	struct shrinker *shrinker;
>> -	unsigned long ret = 0;
>> +	unsigned long freed = 0;
>>  
>>  	if (nr_pages_scanned == 0)
>>  		nr_pages_scanned = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX;
>>  
>>  	if (!down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem)) {
>>  		/* Assume we'll be able to shrink next time */
>> -		ret = 1;
>> +		freed = 1;
> 
> That's odd - it didn't free anything?  Needs a comment to avoid
> mystifying other readers.
> 

This is because a return value of zero would make us stop trying. There
is a comment saying that: "Assume we'll be able to shrink next time",
but admittedly it is not saying much. I confess that I still remember
the first time I looked into this code, and it took me a while to figure
out this was the reason.

>>  		goto out;
>>  	}
>>  
>> @@ -225,13 +225,16 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
>>  		unsigned long long delta;
>>  		long total_scan;
>>  		long max_pass;
>> -		int shrink_ret = 0;
>>  		long nr;
>>  		long new_nr;
>>  		long batch_size = shrinker->batch ? shrinker->batch
>>  						  : SHRINK_BATCH;
>>  
>> -		max_pass = do_shrinker_shrink(shrinker, shrink, 0);
>> +		if (shrinker->scan_objects) {
> 
> Did you mean to test ->scan_objects here?  Or ->count_objects? 
> ->scan_objects makes sense but I wanna know if it was a copy-n-paste
> bug.
> 
It doesn't really matter, because:
1) This is temporary and will go away.
2) No shrinker is half-converted.

>> +			max_pass = shrinker->count_objects(shrinker, shrinkctl);
>> +			WARN_ON(max_pass < 0);
> 
> OK so from that I see that ->count_objects() doesn't return negative.
> 
> I this warning ever triggers, I expect it will trigger *a lot*. 
> WARN_ON_ONCE would be more prudent.  Or just nuke it.
> 

I can change it to WARN_ON_ONCE. As I have suggested, we could leave it
like this (with WARN_ON_ONCE) for some time in linux-next until we are
more or less confident that this was stressed enough.

>> +		} else
>> +			max_pass = do_shrinker_shrink(shrinker, shrinkctl, 0);
>>  		if (max_pass <= 0)
>>  			continue;
>>  
>> @@ -248,8 +251,8 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
>>  		do_div(delta, lru_pages + 1);
>>  		total_scan += delta;
>>  		if (total_scan < 0) {
>> -			printk(KERN_ERR "shrink_slab: %pF negative objects to "
>> -			       "delete nr=%ld\n",
>> +			printk(KERN_ERR
>> +			"shrink_slab: %pF negative objects to delete nr=%ld\n",
>>  			       shrinker->shrink, total_scan);
>>  			total_scan = max_pass;
>>  		}
>> @@ -277,20 +280,31 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
>>  		if (total_scan > max_pass * 2)
>>  			total_scan = max_pass * 2;
>>  
>> -		trace_mm_shrink_slab_start(shrinker, shrink, nr,
>> +		trace_mm_shrink_slab_start(shrinker, shrinkctl, nr,
>>  					nr_pages_scanned, lru_pages,
>>  					max_pass, delta, total_scan);
>>  
>>  		while (total_scan >= batch_size) {
>> -			int nr_before;
>> +			long ret;
>> +
>> +			if (shrinker->scan_objects) {
>> +				shrinkctl->nr_to_scan = batch_size;
>> +				ret = shrinker->scan_objects(shrinker, shrinkctl);
>> +
>> +				if (ret == -1)
>> +					break;
>> +				freed += ret;
>> +			} else {
>> +				int nr_before;
>> +				nr_before = do_shrinker_shrink(shrinker, shrinkctl, 0);
>> +				ret = do_shrinker_shrink(shrinker, shrinkctl,
>> +								batch_size);
>> +				if (ret == -1)
>> +					break;
>> +				if (ret < nr_before)
> 
> This test seems unnecessary.
> 

Everything within the "else" is going away in a couple of patches. This
is just to keep the tree working while we convert everybody. And since
this is just moving the code below inside a conditional, I would prefer
leaving it this way to make sure that this is actually just the same
code going to a different place.

>> +					freed += nr_before - ret;
>> +			}
>>  
>> -			nr_before = do_shrinker_shrink(shrinker, shrink, 0);
>> -			shrink_ret = do_shrinker_shrink(shrinker, shrink,
>> -							batch_size);
>> -			if (shrink_ret == -1)
>> -				break;
>> -			if (shrink_ret < nr_before)
>> -				ret += nr_before - shrink_ret;
>>  			count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, batch_size);
>>  			total_scan -= batch_size;
>>  
>> @@ -308,12 +322,12 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
>>  		else
>>  			new_nr = atomic_long_read(&shrinker->nr_in_batch);
>>  
>> -		trace_mm_shrink_slab_end(shrinker, shrink_ret, nr, new_nr);
>> +		trace_mm_shrink_slab_end(shrinker, freed, nr, new_nr);
>>  	}
>>  	up_read(&shrinker_rwsem);
>>  out:
>>  	cond_resched();
>> -	return ret;
>> +	return freed;
>>  }
>>  
>>  static inline int is_page_cache_freeable(struct page *page)
> 
> shrink_slab() has a long, long history of exhibiting various overflows
> - both multiplicative and over-incrementing.  I looked, and can't see
> any introduction of such problems here, but please do check it
> carefully.  Expect the impossible :(
> 

Yes, cap'n. Will do that.

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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-03 19:29 [PATCH v10 00/35] kmemcg shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 01/35] fs: bump inode and dentry counters to long Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 02/35] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 03/35] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  1:45     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  2:48       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  4:02         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 12:40         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 22:25           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 23:42             ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-07  6:03               ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 04/35] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  1:56     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  8:03     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 12:51       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 05/35] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:04     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 06/35] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:58     ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 07/35] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 08/35] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  2:49     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:05       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  4:44         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  7:04           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  9:03             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:55               ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 11:47                 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 14:28       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:10     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 09/35] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 10/35] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 11/35] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:21     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:51       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:21       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:15     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:48       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 12/35] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:26     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:54       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:23     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 13/35] vmscan: per-node deferred work Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:37     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  4:59       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  7:12         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  9:00     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 14/35] list_lru: per-node API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 15/35] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 16/35] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 17/35] xfs: rework buffer dispose list tracking Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 18/35] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 19/35] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 20/35] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 21/35] i915: bail out earlier when shrinker cannot acquire mutex Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 22/35] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:41     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  8:27       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 23/35] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 24/35] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 25/35] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 26/35] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:52     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 27/35] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:44     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 28/35] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:37     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 29/35] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:35     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:49       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 12:09         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 22:23           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-07  6:10             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 30/35] memcg: scan cache objects hierarchically Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 31/35] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 32/35] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 33/35] memcg: move initialization to memcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 34/35] vmpressure: in-kernel notifications Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 35/35] memcg: reap dead memcgs upon global memory pressure Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:33     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/35] kmemcg shrinkers Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:44   ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  5:51   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:18     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:37       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:47         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:59           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-07 14:15   ` Michal Hocko

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