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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] memcg: consistently use vmalloc for page_cgroup allocations
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 11:41:59 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51637FF7.4070101@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130405162536.GO1953@cmpxchg.org>

(2013/04/06 1:25), Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 04:27:56PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 04/05/2013 04:06 PM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:01:11PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>> Right now, allocation for page_cgroup is a bit complicated, dependent on
>>>> a variety of system conditions:
>>>>
>>>> For flat memory, we are likely to need quite big pages, so the page
>>>> allocator won't cut. We are forced to init flatmem mappings very early,
>>>> because if we run after the page allocator is in place those allocations
>>>> will be denied. Flatmem mappings thus resort to the bootmem allocator.
>>>>
>>>> We can fix this by using vmalloc for flatmem mappings. However, we now
>>>> have the situation in which flatmem mapping allocate using vmalloc, but
>>>> sparsemem may or may not allocate with vmalloc. It will try the
>>>> page_allocator first, and retry vmalloc if it fails.
>>>
>>> Vmalloc space is a precious resource on 32-bit systems and harder on
>>> the TLB than the identity mapping.
>>>
>>> It's a last resort thing for when you need an unusually large chunk of
>>> contiguously addressable memory during runtime, like loading a module,
>>> buffers shared with userspace etc..  But here we know, during boot
>>> time, the exact amount of memory we need for the page_cgroup array.
>>>
>>> Code cleanup is not a good reason to use vmalloc in this case, IMO.
>>>
>> This is indeed a code cleanup, but a code cleanup with a side goal:
>> freeing us from the need to register page_cgroup mandatorily at init
>> time. This is done because page_cgroup_init_flatmem will use the bootmem
>> allocator, to avoid the page allocator limitations.
>>
>> What I can try to do, and would happily do, is to try a normal page
>> allocation and then resort to vmalloc if it is too big.
>>
>> Would that be okay to you ?
>
> With the size of page_cgroup right now (2 words), we need half a page
> per MB of represented memory on 32 bit, so booting on a 4GB 32 bit
> machine needs an order-11 (MAX_ORDER) allocation and thus fall back to
> 8MB of the 128MB vmalloc space.  A 16GB machine falls back to 32MB, a
> quarter of the vmalloc space.
>
> Now, I think we all agree that these are not necessarily recommended
> configurations but we should not be breaking them for the hell of it
> either.
>
> How about leaving flatmem as it is and have an on-demand allocation
> model that just works with sparsemem?  A 128MB section on 64 bit
> "only" needs order-7 pages, but we satisfy order-9 THP allocations all
> the time during runtime, so this may just work.
>

I agree to Johannes' option.

Thanks,
-Kame






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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-09  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-05 10:01 [PATCH 0/2] page_cgroup cleanups Glauber Costa
2013-04-05 10:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] memcg: consistently use vmalloc for page_cgroup allocations Glauber Costa
2013-04-05 12:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-05 12:27     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-05 16:25       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-09  2:41         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2013-04-05 10:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: defer page_cgroup initialization Glauber Costa
2013-04-05 11:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] page_cgroup cleanups Glauber Costa

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