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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Shrinnker <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	hughd@google.com, yinghan@google.com,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:14:00 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51594FD8.5050002@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51594CED.4050401@jp.fujitsu.com>

On 04/01/2013 01:01 PM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> (2013/04/01 17:48), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>> +static int memcg_try_charge_kmem(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp, u64 size)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	int retries = MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_RETRIES;
>>>
>>> I'm not sure this retry numbers, for anon/file LRUs is suitable for kmem.
>>>
>> Suggestions ?
>>
> 
> I think you did tests.
> 
Indeed. And in my tests, 2 or 3 retries are already enough to seal the
fate of this.

I though it was safer to go with the same number, though, exactly not to
be too biased by my specific test environments.

I am fine with >= 3.

Michal, you have input here?

>>>> +	struct res_counter *fail_res;
>>>> +	int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +	do {
>>>> +		ret = res_counter_charge(&memcg->kmem, size, &fail_res);
>>>> +		if (!ret)
>>>> +			return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +		if (!(gfp & __GFP_WAIT))
>>>> +			return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +		/*
>>>> +		 * We will try to shrink kernel memory present in caches. We
>>>> +		 * are sure that we can wait, so we will. The duration of our
>>>> +		 * wait is determined by congestion, the same way as vmscan.c
>>>> +		 *
>>>> +		 * If we are in FS context, though, then although we can wait,
>>>> +		 * we cannot call the shrinkers. Most fs shrinkers (which
>>>> +		 * comprises most of our kmem data) will not run without
>>>> +		 * __GFP_FS since they can deadlock. The solution is to
>>>> +		 * synchronously run that in a different context.
>>>> +		 */
>>>> +		if (!(gfp & __GFP_FS)) {
>>>> +			/*
>>>> +			 * we are already short on memory, every queue
>>>> +			 * allocation is likely to fail
>>>> +			 */
>>>> +			memcg_stop_kmem_account();
>>>> +			schedule_work(&memcg->kmemcg_shrink_work);
>>>> +			flush_work(&memcg->kmemcg_shrink_work);
>>>> +			memcg_resume_kmem_account();
>>>> +		} else if (!try_to_free_mem_cgroup_kmem(memcg, gfp))
>>>> +			congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
>>>
>>> Why congestion_wait() ? I think calling congestion_wait() in vmscan.c is
>>> a part of memory-reclaim logic but I don't think the caller should do
>>> this kind of voluteer wait without good reason..
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Although it is not the case with dentries (or inodes, since only
>> non-dirty inodes goes to the lru list), some objects we are freeing may
>> need time to be written back to disk. This is the case for instance with
>> the buffer heads and bio's. They will not be actively shrunk in
>> shrinkers, but it is my understanding that they will be released. Inodes
>> as well, may have time to be written back and become non-dirty.
>>
>> In practice, in my tests, this would almost-always fail after a retry if
>> we don't wait, and almost always succeed in a retry if we do wait.
>>
>> Am I missing something in this interpretation ?
>>
> 
> Ah, sorry. Can't we put this wait into try_to_free_mem_cgroup_kmem().
> 

That I believe we can easily do.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-01  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-29  9:13 [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:16   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:26   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:10     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10  5:09       ` Ric Mason
2013-04-10  7:32         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10  9:19         ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08  8:42   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08  8:47     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08  9:01       ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08  9:05         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09  0:55           ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09  1:29             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09  2:05               ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09  7:43                 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09  9:08                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 12:30                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10  2:51                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10  7:30                     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10  8:19                       ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10  8:46                     ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                     ` <20130410025115.GA5872-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  8:46                       ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-10  8:46                     ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-10 10:07                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 14:03                         ` JoonSoo Kim
2013-04-11  0:41                           ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-11  7:27                             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11  9:25                               ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-11  7:27                             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11  7:27                             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-04-05  1:09   ` Greg Thelen
2013-04-05  1:15     ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08  9:14       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:18         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 23:26         ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09  8:02           ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 12:47             ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-04-03  6:51   ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03  8:55     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04  6:19     ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-04  6:56       ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-05  1:09   ` Greg Thelen
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-04-04 21:53   ` Greg Thelen
2013-04-05  1:20     ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-05  8:01       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-06  0:04         ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:14   ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 23:28     ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:46   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:51     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-03 10:11   ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03 10:43     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04  9:35       ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-05  8:25         ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:05   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:22     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:18   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] list_lru: also include memcg lists in counts and scans Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:31   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:48     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  9:01       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  9:14         ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2013-04-01  9:35         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] list_lru: reclaim proportionaly between memcgs and nodes Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Serge Hallyn
2013-04-01 12:45   ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 14:12     ` Serge Hallyn
2013-04-08  8:11       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-02  4:58   ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-02  7:55     ` Glauber Costa

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