From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Shrinnker <david@fromorbit.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
hughd@google.com, yinghan@google.com,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:01:33 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51594CED.4050401@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <515949EB.7020400@parallels.com>
(2013/04/01 17:48), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>> +static int memcg_try_charge_kmem(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp, u64 size)
>>> +{
>>> + int retries = MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_RETRIES;
>>
>> I'm not sure this retry numbers, for anon/file LRUs is suitable for kmem.
>>
> Suggestions ?
>
I think you did tests.
>>> + struct res_counter *fail_res;
>>> + int ret;
>>> +
>>> + do {
>>> + ret = res_counter_charge(&memcg->kmem, size, &fail_res);
>>> + if (!ret)
>>> + return ret;
>>> +
>>> + if (!(gfp & __GFP_WAIT))
>>> + return ret;
>>> +
>>> + /*
>>> + * We will try to shrink kernel memory present in caches. We
>>> + * are sure that we can wait, so we will. The duration of our
>>> + * wait is determined by congestion, the same way as vmscan.c
>>> + *
>>> + * If we are in FS context, though, then although we can wait,
>>> + * we cannot call the shrinkers. Most fs shrinkers (which
>>> + * comprises most of our kmem data) will not run without
>>> + * __GFP_FS since they can deadlock. The solution is to
>>> + * synchronously run that in a different context.
>>> + */
>>> + if (!(gfp & __GFP_FS)) {
>>> + /*
>>> + * we are already short on memory, every queue
>>> + * allocation is likely to fail
>>> + */
>>> + memcg_stop_kmem_account();
>>> + schedule_work(&memcg->kmemcg_shrink_work);
>>> + flush_work(&memcg->kmemcg_shrink_work);
>>> + memcg_resume_kmem_account();
>>> + } else if (!try_to_free_mem_cgroup_kmem(memcg, gfp))
>>> + congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
>>
>> Why congestion_wait() ? I think calling congestion_wait() in vmscan.c is
>> a part of memory-reclaim logic but I don't think the caller should do
>> this kind of voluteer wait without good reason..
>>
>>
>
> Although it is not the case with dentries (or inodes, since only
> non-dirty inodes goes to the lru list), some objects we are freeing may
> need time to be written back to disk. This is the case for instance with
> the buffer heads and bio's. They will not be actively shrunk in
> shrinkers, but it is my understanding that they will be released. Inodes
> as well, may have time to be written back and become non-dirty.
>
> In practice, in my tests, this would almost-always fail after a retry if
> we don't wait, and almost always succeed in a retry if we do wait.
>
> Am I missing something in this interpretation ?
>
Ah, sorry. Can't we put this wait into try_to_free_mem_cgroup_kmem().
Thanks,
-Kame
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Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-29 9:13 [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 7:16 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 7:26 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01 8:10 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10 5:09 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-10 7:32 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10 9:19 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08 8:42 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08 8:47 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 9:01 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08 9:05 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 0:55 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 1:29 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09 2:05 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 7:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 9:08 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 12:30 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 2:51 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10 7:30 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10 8:19 ` Joonsoo Kim
[not found] ` <20130410025115.GA5872-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 8:46 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-10 8:46 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-10 10:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 14:03 ` JoonSoo Kim
2013-04-11 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-11 7:27 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11 7:27 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11 7:27 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11 9:25 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 8:46 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-04-05 1:09 ` Greg Thelen
2013-04-05 1:15 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08 9:14 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:18 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 23:26 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09 8:02 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 12:47 ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-04-03 6:51 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03 8:55 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04 6:19 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-04 6:56 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-05 1:09 ` Greg Thelen
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-04-04 21:53 ` Greg Thelen
2013-04-05 1:20 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-05 8:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-06 0:04 ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:14 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 23:28 ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:13 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 7:46 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01 8:51 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-03 10:11 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03 10:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04 9:35 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-05 8:25 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 8:05 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01 8:22 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 8:18 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01 8:29 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] list_lru: also include memcg lists in counts and scans Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 8:31 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01 8:48 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 9:01 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2013-04-01 9:14 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 9:35 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] list_lru: reclaim proportionaly between memcgs and nodes Glauber Costa
2013-03-29 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Serge Hallyn
2013-04-01 12:45 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 14:12 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-04-08 8:11 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-02 4:58 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-02 7:55 ` Glauber Costa
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