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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/11] mm/huge_memory: mark PMD mappings of the huge zero folio special
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 19:14:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511317b9-7155-40c7-91e0-faf134622b9d@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250811112631.759341-6-david@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 01:26:25PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> The huge zero folio is refcounted (+mapcounted -- is that a word?)
> differently than "normal" folios, similarly (but different) to the ordinary
> shared zeropage.
>
> For this reason, we special-case these pages in
> vm_normal_page*/vm_normal_folio*, and only allow selected callers to
> still use them (e.g., GUP can still take a reference on them).

Hm, interestingly in gup_fast_pmd_leaf() we explicitly check pmd_special(),
so surely setting the zero huge pmd special will change behaviour there?

But I guess this is actually _more_ correct as it's not really sensible to
grab the huge zero PMD page.

Then again, follow_huge_pmd() _will_, afaict.

I see the GUP fast change was introduced by commit ae3c99e650da ("mm/gup:
detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast") so was specifically intended for
pfnmap not the zero page.

>
> vm_normal_page_pmd() already filters out the huge zero folio, to
> indicate it a special (return NULL). However, so far we are not making
> use of pmd_special() on architectures that support it
> (CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PTE_SPECIAL), like we would with the ordinary shared
> zeropage.
>
> Let's mark PMD mappings of the huge zero folio similarly as special, so we
> can avoid the manual check for the huge zero folio with
> CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PTE_SPECIAL next, and only perform the check on
> !CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PTE_SPECIAL.
>
> In copy_huge_pmd(), where we have a manual pmd_special() check to handle
> PFNMAP, we have to manually rule out the huge zero folio. That code
> needs a serious cleanup, but that's something for another day.
>
> While at it, update the doc regarding the shared zero folios.
>
> No functional change intended: vm_normal_page_pmd() still returns NULL
> when it encounters the huge zero folio.
>
> Reviewed-by: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>

I R-b this before, and Wei did also, did you drop because of changes?

Anyway, apart from query about GUP-fast above, this LGTM so:

Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>

> ---
>  mm/huge_memory.c |  8 ++++++--
>  mm/memory.c      | 15 ++++++++++-----
>  2 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> index ec89e0607424e..58bac83e7fa31 100644
> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> @@ -1309,6 +1309,7 @@ static void set_huge_zero_folio(pgtable_t pgtable, struct mm_struct *mm,
>  {
>  	pmd_t entry;
>  	entry = folio_mk_pmd(zero_folio, vma->vm_page_prot);
> +	entry = pmd_mkspecial(entry);
>  	pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
>  	set_pmd_at(mm, haddr, pmd, entry);
>  	mm_inc_nr_ptes(mm);
> @@ -1418,7 +1419,9 @@ static vm_fault_t insert_pmd(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr,
>  	if (fop.is_folio) {
>  		entry = folio_mk_pmd(fop.folio, vma->vm_page_prot);
>
> -		if (!is_huge_zero_folio(fop.folio)) {
> +		if (is_huge_zero_folio(fop.folio)) {
> +			entry = pmd_mkspecial(entry);
> +		} else {
>  			folio_get(fop.folio);
>  			folio_add_file_rmap_pmd(fop.folio, &fop.folio->page, vma);
>  			add_mm_counter(mm, mm_counter_file(fop.folio), HPAGE_PMD_NR);
> @@ -1643,7 +1646,8 @@ int copy_huge_pmd(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, struct mm_struct *src_mm,
>  	int ret = -ENOMEM;
>
>  	pmd = pmdp_get_lockless(src_pmd);
> -	if (unlikely(pmd_present(pmd) && pmd_special(pmd))) {
> +	if (unlikely(pmd_present(pmd) && pmd_special(pmd) &&
> +		     !is_huge_zero_pmd(pmd))) {

OK yeah this is new I see from cover letter + ranged-diff.

Yeah this is important actually wow, as otherwise the is_huge_zero_pmd()
branch will not be executed.

Good spot!

>  		dst_ptl = pmd_lock(dst_mm, dst_pmd);
>  		src_ptl = pmd_lockptr(src_mm, src_pmd);
>  		spin_lock_nested(src_ptl, SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING);
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index 0ba4f6b718471..626caedce35e0 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -555,7 +555,14 @@ static void print_bad_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr,
>   *
>   * "Special" mappings do not wish to be associated with a "struct page" (either
>   * it doesn't exist, or it exists but they don't want to touch it). In this
> - * case, NULL is returned here. "Normal" mappings do have a struct page.
> + * case, NULL is returned here. "Normal" mappings do have a struct page and
> + * are ordinarily refcounted.
> + *
> + * Page mappings of the shared zero folios are always considered "special", as
> + * they are not ordinarily refcounted: neither the refcount nor the mapcount
> + * of these folios is adjusted when mapping them into user page tables.
> + * Selected page table walkers (such as GUP) can still identify mappings of the
> + * shared zero folios and work with the underlying "struct page".

Thanks for this.

>   *
>   * There are 2 broad cases. Firstly, an architecture may define a pte_special()
>   * pte bit, in which case this function is trivial. Secondly, an architecture
> @@ -585,9 +592,8 @@ static void print_bad_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr,
>   *
>   * VM_MIXEDMAP mappings can likewise contain memory with or without "struct
>   * page" backing, however the difference is that _all_ pages with a struct
> - * page (that is, those where pfn_valid is true) are refcounted and considered
> - * normal pages by the VM. The only exception are zeropages, which are
> - * *never* refcounted.
> + * page (that is, those where pfn_valid is true, except the shared zero
> + * folios) are refcounted and considered normal pages by the VM.
>   *
>   * The disadvantage is that pages are refcounted (which can be slower and
>   * simply not an option for some PFNMAP users). The advantage is that we
> @@ -667,7 +673,6 @@ struct page *vm_normal_page_pmd(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr,
>  {
>  	unsigned long pfn = pmd_pfn(pmd);
>
> -	/* Currently it's only used for huge pfnmaps */
>  	if (unlikely(pmd_special(pmd)))
>  		return NULL;
>
> --
> 2.50.1
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-11 11:26 [PATCH v3 00/11] mm: vm_normal_page*() improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] mm/huge_memory: move more common code into insert_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12  4:52   ` Lance Yang
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] mm/huge_memory: move more common code into insert_pud() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] mm/huge_memory: support huge zero folio in vmf_insert_folio_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] fs/dax: use vmf_insert_folio_pmd() to insert the huge zero folio David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] mm/huge_memory: mark PMD mappings of the huge zero folio special David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 18:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] powerpc/ptdump: rename "struct pgtable_level" to "struct ptdump_pglevel" David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 18:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 18:39     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-12 18:54       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 16:28   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-08-27 13:57     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] mm/rmap: convert "enum rmap_level" to "enum pgtable_level" David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 18:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] mm/memory: convert print_bad_pte() to print_bad_page_map() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 18:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-25 12:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26  5:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26  6:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] mm/memory: factor out common code from vm_normal_page_*() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 19:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] mm: introduce and use vm_normal_page_pud() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 19:38   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] mm: rename vm_ops->find_special_page() to vm_ops->find_normal_page() David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 19:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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