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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: Don't pin ZERO_PAGE in pin_user_pages()
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 09:35:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <510965.1685522152@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbd39f94-407a-03b6-9c43-8144d0efc8bb@redhat.com>

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:

> > Make pin_user_pages*() leave a ZERO_PAGE unpinned if it extracts a pointer
> > to it from the page tables and make unpin_user_page*() correspondingly
> > ignore a ZERO_PAGE when unpinning.  We don't want to risk overrunning a
> > zero page's refcount as we're only allowed ~2 million pins on it -
> > something that userspace can conceivably trigger.
> 
> 2 millions pins (FOLL_PIN, which increments the refcount by 1024) or 2 million
> references ?

Definitely pins.  It's tricky because we've been using "pinned" to mean held
by a refcount or held by a flag too.

2 million pins on the zero page is in the realms of possibility.  It only
takes 32768 64-page DIO writes.

> > @@ -3079,6 +3096,9 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(get_user_pages_fast);
> >    *
> >    * FOLL_PIN means that the pages must be released via unpin_user_page(). Please
> >    * see Documentation/core-api/pin_user_pages.rst for further details.
> > + *
> > + * Note that if a zero_page is amongst the returned pages, it will not have
> > + * pins in it and unpin_user_page() will not remove pins from it.
> >    */
> 
> "it will not have pins in it" sounds fairly weird to a non-native speaker.

Oh, I know.  The problem is that "pin" is now really ambiguous.  Can we change
"FOLL_PIN" to "FOLL_NAIL"?  Or maybe "FOLL_SCREW" - your pages are screwed if
you use DIO and fork at the same time.

> "Note that the refcount of any zero_pages returned among the pinned pages will
> not be incremented, and unpin_user_page() will similarly not decrement it."

That's not really right (although it happens to be true), because we're
talking primarily about the pin counter, not the refcount - and they may be
separate.

David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-31  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-26 21:41 [PATCH v4 0/3] block: Make old dio use iov_iter_extract_pages() and page pinning David Howells
2023-05-26 21:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: Don't pin ZERO_PAGE in pin_user_pages() David Howells
2023-05-27 19:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-31  3:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-31  7:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-31  8:35   ` David Howells [this message]
2023-05-31  8:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-31 13:55     ` David Howells
2023-05-31 14:10       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-26 21:41 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: Provide a function to get an additional pin on a page David Howells
2023-05-31  3:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-31  7:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-31  8:20   ` David Howells
2023-05-26 21:41 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] block: Use iov_iter_extract_pages() and page pinning in direct-io.c David Howells
2023-05-31  3:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-31 15:48 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] block: Make old dio use iov_iter_extract_pages() and page pinning Jens Axboe

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