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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 00/19] Numa aware LRU lists and shrinkers
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:36:33 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50FFF571.8080506@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130121232121.GG2498@dastard>

On 01/22/2013 03:21 AM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 08:08:53PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 11/28/2012 03:14 AM, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> [PATCH 09/19] list_lru: per-node list infrastructure
>>>
>>> This makes the generic LRU list much more scalable by changing it to
>>> a {list,lock,count} tuple per node. There are no external API
>>> changes to this changeover, so is transparent to current users.
>>>
>>> [PATCH 10/19] shrinker: add node awareness
>>> [PATCH 11/19] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node
>>>
>>> Adds a nodemask to the struct shrink_control for callers of
>>> shrink_slab to set appropriately for their reclaim context. This
>>> nodemask is then passed by the inode and dentry cache reclaim code
>>> to the generic LRU list code to implement node aware shrinking.
>>
>> I have a follow up question that popped up from a discussion between me
>> and my very American friend Johnny Wheeler, also known as Johannes
>> Weiner (CC'd). I actually remember we discussing this, but don't fully
>> remember the outcome. And since I can't find it anywhere, it must have
>> been in a media other than e-mail. So I thought it would do no harm in
>> at least documenting it...
>>
>> Why are we doing this per-node, instead of per-zone?
>>
>> It seems to me that the goal is to collapse all zones of a node into a
>> single list, but since the number of zones is not terribly larger than
>> the number of nodes, and zones is where the pressure comes from, what do
>> we really gain from this?
> 
> The number is quite a bit higher - there are platforms with 5 zones
> to a node. The reality is, though, for most platforms slab
> allocations come from a single zone - they never come from ZONE_DMA,
> ZONE_HIGHMEM or ZONE_MOVEABLE, so there is there is no good reason
> for having cache LRUs for these zones. So, two zones at most.
> 
Yes, but one would expect that most of those special zones would be
present only in the first node, no? (correct me if I am wrong here).

Over that, things should be pretty much addressable.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-27 23:14 Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 01/19] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 02/19] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 03/19] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm: new shrinker API Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 05/19] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Dave Chinner
2012-12-20 11:06   ` Glauber Costa
2012-12-21  1:46     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-21 10:17       ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 06/19] list: add a new LRU list type Dave Chinner
2012-11-28 16:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 07/19] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 08/19] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 09/19] list_lru: per-node " Dave Chinner
2012-12-20 11:21   ` Glauber Costa
2012-12-21  1:54     ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-16 19:21   ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-16 22:55     ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-17  0:35       ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-17  4:22         ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-17 18:21           ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-18  0:10             ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-18  0:14               ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-18  8:11                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-18 19:10                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-19  0:10                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-19  0:13                       ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-18  0:51               ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-18  8:08                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-18 19:01                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 10/19] shrinker: add node awareness Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 11/19] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 12/19] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 13/19] xfs: Node aware direct inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 14/19] xfs: use generic AG walk for background " Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 15/19] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Dave Chinner
2012-11-28 16:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 16/19] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 17/19] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Dave Chinner
2012-11-28  1:13   ` Chris Wilson
2012-11-28  3:17     ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-28  8:21       ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-28 21:28         ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-29 10:29           ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-29 22:02             ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-07 13:37   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 18/19] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 23:14 ` [PATCH 19/19] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Dave Chinner
2012-11-29 19:02 ` [RFC, PATCH 00/19] Numa aware LRU lists and shrinkers Andi Kleen
2012-11-29 22:09   ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-20 11:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-12-21  2:50   ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-21 10:41     ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 16:08 ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 23:21   ` Dave Chinner
2013-01-23 14:36     ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2013-01-23 23:46       ` Dave Chinner

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