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From: Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:08:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F78750.8070403@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50F72F17.9030805@zytor.com>

2013/01/17 7:52, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 01/16/2013 01:29 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes. If SRAT support is available, all memory which enabled hotpluggable
>>> bit are managed by ZONEMOVABLE. But performance degradation may
>>> occur by NUMA because we can only allocate anonymous page and page-cache
>>> from these memory.
>>>
>>> In this case, if user cannot change SRAT information, user needs a way to
>>> select/set removable memory manually.
>>
>> If I understand this correctly you mean that once SRAT parsing is
>> implemented, the user can use movablecore_map to override that SRAT
>> parsing, yes?  That movablecore_map will take precedence over SRAT?
>>
>
> Yes, but we still need a higher-level user interface which specifies
> which nodes, not which memory ranges, should be movable.

I thought about the method of specifying the node. But I think
this method is inconvenience. Node number is decided by OS.
So the number is changed easily.

for example:

o exmaple 1
   System has 3 nodes:
   node0, node1, node2

   When user remove node1, the system has:
   node0, node2

   But after rebooting the system, the system has:
   node0, node1

   So node2 becomes node1.

o example 2:
   System has 2 nodes:
   0x40000000 - 0x7fffffff : node0
   0xc0000000 - 0xffffffff : node1

   When user add a node wchih memory range is [0x80000000 - 0xbfffffff],
   system has:
   0x40000000 - 0x7fffffff : node0
   0xc0000000 - 0xffffffff : node1
   0x80000000 - 0xbfffffff : node2

   But after rebooting the system, the system's node may become:
   0x40000000 - 0x7fffffff : node0
   0x80000000 - 0xbfffffff : node1
   0xc0000000 - 0xffffffff : node2

   So node nunber is changed.

Specifying node number may be easy method than specifying memory
range. But if user uses node number for specifying removable memory,
user always need to care whether node number is changed or not at
every hotplug operation.

Thanks,
Yasuaki Ishimatsu


> That is the
> policy granularity that is actually appropriate for the administrator
> (trading off performance vs reliability.)
>
> 	-hpa
>


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-17  5:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-14  9:15 Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] page_alloc: add movable_memmap kernel parameter Tang Chen
2013-01-14 22:35   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] page_alloc: Introduce zone_movable_limit[] to keep movable limit for nodes Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] page_alloc: Make movablecore_map has higher priority Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] page_alloc: Bootmem limit with movablecore_map Tang Chen
2013-01-14 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-14 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14 22:41     ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-14 22:46       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  6:25         ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-16 21:29           ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 22:01             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 23:00               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 20:27                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 22:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17  1:49               ` Tang Chen
2013-01-17 20:20                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-17  5:08               ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu [this message]
2013-01-17  6:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 16:30                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-17 20:28                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-18  6:05                       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  6:25                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-18  7:38                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  8:08                             ` Tang Chen
2013-01-18  9:23                               ` li guang
2013-01-18 18:29                                 ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-19  1:06                                   ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-19  7:52                                     ` Chen Gong
2013-01-21  7:36                                   ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-15  1:23       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-15  3:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-15  4:04           ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-15  0:05     ` Toshi Kani

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