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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	devel@openvz.org, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:36:38 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5077C886.2030609@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121011101119.GB29295@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 10/11/2012 02:11 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 08-10-12 14:06:10, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> This patch adds the basic infrastructure for the accounting of the slab
>> caches. To control that, the following files are created:
>>
>>  * memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes
>>  * memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes
>>  * memory.kmem.failcnt
>>  * memory.kmem.max_usage_in_bytes
>>
>> They have the same meaning of their user memory counterparts. They
>> reflect the state of the "kmem" res_counter.
>>
>> Per cgroup slab memory accounting is not enabled until a limit is set
> 
> s/slab/kmem/ right?
> 
right.

>> +static int memcg_update_kmem_limit(struct cgroup *cont, u64 val)
>> +{
>> +	int ret = -EINVAL;
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM
>> +	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_cont(cont);
>> +	/*
>> +	 * For simplicity, we won't allow this to be disabled.  It also can't
>> +	 * be changed if the cgroup has children already, or if tasks had
>> +	 * already joined.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * If tasks join before we set the limit, a person looking at
>> +	 * kmem.usage_in_bytes will have no way to determine when it took
>> +	 * place, which makes the value quite meaningless.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * After it first became limited, changes in the value of the limit are
>> +	 * of course permitted.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Taking the cgroup_lock is really offensive, but it is so far the only
>> +	 * way to guarantee that no children will appear. There are plenty of
>> +	 * other offenders, and they should all go away. Fine grained locking
>> +	 * is probably the way to go here. When we are fully hierarchical, we
>> +	 * can also get rid of the use_hierarchy check.
>> +	 */
>> +	cgroup_lock();
>> +	mutex_lock(&set_limit_mutex);
>> +	if (!memcg->kmem_accounted && val != RESOURCE_MAX) {
> 
> Just a nit but wouldn't memcg_kmem_is_accounted(memcg) be better than
> directly checking kmem_accounted?
> Besides that I am not sure I fully understand RESOURCE_MAX test. Say I
> want to have kmem accounting for monitoring so I do 
> echo -1 > memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes
> 
> so you set the value but do not activate it. Isn't this just a reminder
> from the time when the accounting could be deactivated?
> 

No, not at all.

I see you have talked about that in other e-mails, (I was on sick leave
yesterday), so let me consolidate it all here:

What we discussed before, regarding to echo -1 > ... was around the
disable code, something that we no longer allow. So now, if you will
echo -1 to that file *after* it is limited, you get in track only mode.

But for you to start that, you absolutely have to write something
different than -1.

Just one example: libcgroup, regardless of how lame we think it is in
this regard, will write to all cgroup files by default when a file is
updated. If you haven't written anything, it will still write the same
value that the file had before.

This means that an already deployed libcg-managed installation will
suddenly enable kmem for every cgroup. Sure this can be fixed in
userspace, but:

1) There is no reason to break it, if we can
2) It is perfectly reasonable to expect that if you write to a file the
same value that was already there, nothing happens.

I'll update the docs to say that you can just write -1 *after* it is
limited, but i believe enabling it has to be a very clear transition,
for sanity's sake.

>> +		if (cgroup_task_count(cont) || (memcg->use_hierarchy &&
>> +						!list_empty(&cont->children))) {
>> +			ret = -EBUSY;
>> +			goto out;
>> +		}
>> +		ret = res_counter_set_limit(&memcg->kmem, val);
> 
> VM_BUG_IN(ret) ?
> There shouldn't be any usage when you enable it or something bad is
> going on.
>
Good point, this is indeed an impossible scenario I was just being
overcautious about.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-12  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-08 10:06 [PATCH v4 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-10-16  3:22   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 10:11   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 12:53     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 13:38     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  7:36     ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-10-12  8:27       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:04   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 12:42   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 12:56     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  7:45     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  8:39       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  8:44         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  8:57           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  9:13             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  9:47               ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16  8:00               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:08   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-09 15:14     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:35       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-10  9:03         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-10 11:24           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-10 11:25   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16  8:20   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 13:11   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  7:47     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  8:41       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16  8:41         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 13:40   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  7:47     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16  8:48       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] execute the whole memcg freeing in free_worker Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 14:21   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 14:35   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  7:53     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  8:44       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-17  7:29   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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