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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: "Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@gentwo.org>
Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] slub: Use alloc_pages_node() in alloc_slab_page()
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:54:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5067a09b-71b5-45dc-916a-d3e7c679bd83@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b9462180-b372-4793-77bc-8e70fbd0d304@gentwo.org>

On 7/10/24 6:43 PM, Christoph Lameter (Ampere) wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> 
>>> With this patch cgroup restrictions memory policies etc etc no longer work
>>> in the slab allocator.
>>
>> The only difference is memory policy from get_task_policy(), and the rest is
>> the same, right?
> 
> There are also the cpuset/cgroup restrictions via the zonelists that are 
> bypassed by removing alloc_pages()

AFAICS cpusets are handled on a level that's reached by both paths, i.e.
prepare_alloc_pages(), and I see nothing that would make switching to
alloc_pages_node() bypass it. Am I missing something?

>> But this only affects new slab page allocation, while getting objects from
>> existing slabs isn't subject to memory policies, so now it's at least
>> consistent? Do you have some use case where it matters?
> 
> Yes this means you cannot redirect kmalloc based kernel metadata 
> allocation when creating f.e. cgroups for another NUMA node. This affects 
> all kernel metadata allocation during syscalls that used to be 
> controllable via numa methods.
> 
> SLAB implemented memory allocations policies per object. SLUB moved that 
> to implement these policies only when allocating a page frame. If this 
> patch is left in then there wont be any support for memory allocation 
> policies left in the slab allocators.
> 
> We have some internal patches now that implement memory policies on a per 
> object basis for SLUB here.
> 
> This is a 10-15% regression on various benchmarks when objects like the 
> scheduler statistics structures are misplaced.

I believe it would be best if you submitted a patch with with all that
reasoning. Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-11  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-28  8:57 [PATCH v2 0/6] Remove some lruvec page accounting functions Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-12-28  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] mm: Remove inc/dec lruvec page state functions Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-01-02 11:02   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-28  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] slub: Use alloc_pages_node() in alloc_slab_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-12-28 20:37   ` David Rientjes
2024-01-02 11:06   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-09 17:12   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-07-10 10:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-10 16:43       ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-07-11  7:54         ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-07-11 18:04           ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-07-12  7:47             ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-28  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] slub: Use folio APIs in free_large_kmalloc() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-12-28 20:37   ` David Rientjes
2024-01-02 11:10   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-28  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] slub: Use a folio in __kmalloc_large_node Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-12-28 20:37   ` David Rientjes
2024-01-02 11:21   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-28  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] mm/khugepaged: Use a folio more in collapse_file() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-12-28 21:10   ` Zi Yan
2024-01-02 11:24   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-28  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] mm/memcontrol: Remove __mod_lruvec_page_state() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-12-28 21:24   ` Zi Yan
2023-12-28 22:31   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-01-02 11:56   ` Vlastimil Babka

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