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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memcg: first step towards hierarchical controller
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 12:29:42 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5045BBF6.5000900@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120903164148.GS29217@decadent.org.uk>


> 
>> +	  of the root memcg, regardless of their positioning in the tree.
>> +
>> +	  Use of flat hierarchies is highly discouraged, but has been the
>> +	  default for performance reasons for quite some time. Setting this flag
>> +	  to on will make hierarchical accounting the default. It is still
>> +	  possible to set it back to flat by writing 0 to the file
>> +	  memory.use_hierarchy, albeit discouraged. Distributors are encouraged
>> +	  to set this option.
> [...]
> 
> I don't think that 'default n' is effective encouragement!
> 
> Ben.
> 
If it were up to me, I would just flip it to 1. No option.
A bit of history here, is that people have a - quite valid - concern
that this will disrupt users using their own kernel, should they decide
to update, recompile and run.

Conditional on a Kconfig option, people reusing their .config will see
no change. Distros, otoh, are versioned. It is not unreasonable to
expect a behavior change when a major version flips.

The encouragement here comes not from the default, but from the
acknowledgment that his thing is totally broken, and we need to act to
fix it in a compatible way.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-04  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-03 15:46 Glauber Costa
2012-09-03 16:41 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-04  8:29   ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-09-03 17:08 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-04  8:34   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-04 13:09     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-04 13:27       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-04 14:35         ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-04 14:37           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-04 14:54             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-04 14:54               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-04 16:25                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-05  8:14                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-05 14:49                     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-05 20:12                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 12:06                         ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-06 12:09                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-06 12:18                             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-07  9:45                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-04 18:22           ` Tejun Heo

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