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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Unifying page table walkers
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 08:59:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502bb09f-ea09-451b-8473-48b14dd2f554@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZmIAAjiO4AEd8-Jb@casper.infradead.org>

On 06.06.24 20:29, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> One of the things we discussed at LSFMM was unifying the hugetlb and
> THP page table walkers.  I've been looking into it some more recently;
> I've found a problem and I think a solution.
> 
> The reason we have a separate hugetlb_entry from pmd_entry and pud_entry
> is that it has a different locking context.  It is called with the
> hugetlb_vma_lock held for read (nb: this is not the same as the vma
> lock; see walk_hugetlb_range()).  Why do we need this?  Because of page
> table sharing.
> 
> In a completely separate discussion, I was talking with Khalid about
> mshare() support for hugetlbfs, and I suggested that we permit hugetlbfs
> pages to be mapped by a VMA which does not have the VM_HUGETLB flag set.
> If we do that, the page tables would not be permitted to be shared with
> other users of that hugetlbfs file.  But we want to eliminate support
> for that anyway, so that's more of a feature than a bug.

I am not sure why hugetlb support in mshare would require that (we don't 
need partial mappings and all of that to support mshare+hugetlb).

The possible mshare directions I discussed with Khalid at LSF/MM would 
likely not need that. But I have no idea which mshare design you and 
Khalid are discussing right now. Maybe it would be a a good idea that 
the three of us meet to discuss that, if my feedback/opinion could be 
helpful.

> 
> Once we don't use the VM_HUGETLB flag on these VMAs, that opens the
> door to the other features we want, like mapping individual pages from
> a hugetlb folio.  And we can use the regular page table walkers for
> these VMAs.

Right, but to me that's a different, long-term project that mshare would 
maybe not have to rely on.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-07  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-06 18:29 Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-06 19:30 ` James Houghton
2024-06-06 20:04   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-06 20:23     ` James Houghton
2024-06-06 21:21       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-06 23:07         ` James Houghton
2024-06-07  7:15           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-06 21:33     ` Peter Xu
2024-06-06 21:49 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-07  5:07   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-06-07  6:59 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-06-09 20:08   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-09 20:28     ` David Hildenbrand

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