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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, devel@openvz.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/11] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:22:34 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502BF6FA.6050602@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000001392b881bf0-4cf7cb93-c142-4ddb-960a-b35390caca0f-000000@email.amazonses.com>

On 08/15/2012 10:25 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Ying Han wrote:
> 
>>> How can you figure out which objects belong to which memcg? The ownerships
>>> of dentries and inodes is a dubious concept already.
>>
>> I figured it out based on the kernel slab accounting.
>> obj->page->kmem_cache->memcg
> 
> Well that is only the memcg which allocated it. It may be in use heavily
> by other processes.
> 

Yes, but a lot of the use cases for cgroups/containers are pretty local.
That is why we have been able to get away with a first-touch mechanism
even in user pages memcg. In those cases - which we expect to be the
majority of them - this will perform well.

Now, this is not of course representative of the whole range of possible
use cases, and others are valid. There are people like Greg
and Ying Han herself that want a more fine grained control on which
memcg gets the accounting. That is one of the topics for the summit.

But even then: regardless of what mechanism is in place, one cgroup is
to be accounted (or not accounted at all, meaning it belongs to a
non-accounted cgroup). And then we can just grab whichever memcg it was
allocated from and shrink it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-15 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-09 13:01 [PATCH v2 00/11] Request for Inclusion: kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:12   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:42   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 16:49     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-10 17:28       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 17:56         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-10 17:30   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 18:52     ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 18:54   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-13  8:05     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 13:10       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:43   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:02   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:36     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  2:38       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-14 16:21   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15  9:33     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 11:12       ` James Bottomley
2012-08-15 12:55         ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:29           ` James Bottomley
2012-08-15 12:39       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 12:53         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:02           ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:04             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:26               ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:31                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:10                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:11                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:47         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 15:11           ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 15:34             ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 15:35               ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 17:26                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 18:11               ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 18:25                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 19:22                   ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-08-15 18:07             ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 15:19           ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 15:36             ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 18:01         ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 18:00           ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 19:50     ` Ying Han
2012-08-16 15:25       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17  5:58         ` Ying Han
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:07   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:27   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:28     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 18:58       ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15  9:18         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 16:38           ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 17:00             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 17:12               ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 19:31                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16  3:37                   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-16  7:47                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-20 13:36               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-20 15:29                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  2:36       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-17  7:04         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 11:00     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-11  5:11   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-13  8:07     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13  9:59     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 21:21       ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-14 17:25   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15  9:42     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 10:44       ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:09       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:01         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:23           ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:27             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16  9:53               ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-16  9:57                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16 15:05                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-16 15:22                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 21:50   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-22  8:35     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-23  0:07       ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-23  7:51         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 16:33   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-09 16:42     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:33   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:03     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13  8:57       ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-10 17:36   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-13  8:02     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 15:16   ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:08     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:22       ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 13:39         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:51         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15  9:24   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  7:02   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17  7:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:51   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  9:00   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17  9:15     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  9:35       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 10:07         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 10:35           ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 10:36             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21  7:54               ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21  8:35                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21  9:17                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21  9:22                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 10:00                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21 10:01                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-22  1:09                     ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-22  8:22                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-22 23:23                         ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-23  7:55                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-24  5:06                             ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-24  5:23                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 10:39             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-08-21  8:22   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-22  8:36     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:54   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-21  9:35   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21  9:40     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 10:57       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 21:37 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Request for Inclusion: kmem controller for memcg Ying Han
2012-08-20  7:51   ` Glauber Costa

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