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From: Alex Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Documentation: riscv: Add documentation that describes the VM layout
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:23:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50109729-9a86-6b49-b608-dd5c8eb2d88e@ghiti.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1+vSoEBqHPzj9S07B7h-Xuwvccpsh1pnn+1xJmS3UdbA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

Le 3/11/21 à 3:42 AM, Arnd Bergmann a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 8:12 PM Alex Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr> wrote:
>> Le 3/10/21 à 6:42 AM, Arnd Bergmann a écrit :
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:56 PM Alex Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Le 2/25/21 à 5:34 AM, David Hildenbrand a écrit :
>>>>>                     |            |                  |         |> +
>>>>> ffffffc000000000 | -256    GB | ffffffc7ffffffff |   32 GB | kasan
>>>>>> +   ffffffcefee00000 | -196    GB | ffffffcefeffffff |    2 MB | fixmap
>>>>>> +   ffffffceff000000 | -196    GB | ffffffceffffffff |   16 MB | PCI io
>>>>>> +   ffffffcf00000000 | -196    GB | ffffffcfffffffff |    4 GB | vmemmap
>>>>>> +   ffffffd000000000 | -192    GB | ffffffdfffffffff |   64 GB |
>>>>>> vmalloc/ioremap space
>>>>>> +   ffffffe000000000 | -128    GB | ffffffff7fffffff |  126 GB |
>>>>>> direct mapping of all physical memory
>>>>>
>>>>> ^ So you could never ever have more than 126 GB, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume that's nothing new.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before this patch, the limit was 128GB, so in my sense, there is nothing
>>>> new. If ever we want to increase that limit, we'll just have to lower
>>>> PAGE_OFFSET, there is still some unused virtual addresses after kasan
>>>> for example.
>>>
>>> Linus Walleij is looking into changing the arm32 code to have the kernel
>>> direct map inside of the vmalloc area, which would be another place
>>> that you could use here. It would be nice to not have too many different
>>> ways of doing this, but I'm not sure how hard it would be to rework your
>>> code, or if there are any downsides of doing this.
>>
>> This was what my previous version did: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/6/7/28.
>>
>> This approach was not welcomed very well and it fixed only the problem
>> of the implementation of relocatable kernel. The second issue I'm trying
>> to resolve here is to support both 3 and 4 level page tables using the
>> same kernel without being relocatable (which would introduce performance
>> penalty). I can't do it when the kernel mapping is in the vmalloc region
>> since vmalloc region relies on PAGE_OFFSET which is different on both 3
>> and 4 level page table and that would then require the kernel to be
>> relocatable.
> 
> Ok, I see.
> 
> I suppose it might work if you moved the direct-map to the lowest
> address and the vmalloc area (incorporating the kernel mapping,
> modules, pio, and fixmap at fixed addresses) to the very top of the
> address space, but you probably already considered and rejected
> that for other reasons.
> 

Yes I considered it...when you re-proposed it :) I'm not opposed to your 
solution in the vmalloc region but I can't find any advantage over the 
current solution, are there ? That would harmonize with Linus's work, 
but then we'd be quite different from x86 address space.

And by the way, thanks for having suggested the current solution in a 
previous conversation :)

Thanks again,

Alex

>           Arnd
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-13  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-25  8:04 [PATCH 0/3] Move kernel mapping outside the linear mapping Alexandre Ghiti
2021-02-25  8:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] riscv: Move kernel mapping outside of " Alexandre Ghiti
2021-02-25  8:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] Documentation: riscv: Add documentation that describes the VM layout Alexandre Ghiti
2021-02-25 10:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-25 11:56     ` Alex Ghiti
2021-03-10 11:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-10 19:12         ` Alex Ghiti
2021-03-11  8:42           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-13  8:23             ` Alex Ghiti [this message]
2021-03-13 22:34               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-25  8:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] riscv: Prepare ptdump for vm layout dynamic addresses Alexandre Ghiti
2021-03-10  2:54 ` [PATCH 0/3] Move kernel mapping outside the linear mapping Palmer Dabbelt
2021-03-13  9:26   ` Alex Ghiti
2021-03-17  5:05     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-03-20  8:48   ` Alex Ghiti

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