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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	inwardvessel <inwardvessel@gmail.com>,
	tj@kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4 v2] cgroup: separate rstat locks for subsystems
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 12:09:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4u2evk2hcg4ynas4jom6hk45vcwgysjxlodhun3gmgbyld7krd@g66fne6mzt6y> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8YH_FjMQSvDOe1f@google.com>

On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 07:50:20PM +0000, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 10:40:45AM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 06:29:53PM +0000, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 04:22:42PM +0100, Michal Koutný wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 01:55:42PM -0800, inwardvessel <inwardvessel@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > From: JP Kobryn <inwardvessel@gmail.com>
> > > > ...
> > > > > +static inline bool is_base_css(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	return css->ss == NULL;
> > > > > +}
> > > > 
> > > > Similar predicate is also used in cgroup.c (various cgroup vs subsys
> > > > lifecycle functions, e.g. css_free_rwork_fn()). I think it'd better
> > > > unified, i.e. open code the predicate here or use the helper in both
> > > > cases (css_is_cgroup() or similar).
> > > > 
> > > > >  void __init cgroup_rstat_boot(void)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > -	int cpu;
> > > > > +	struct cgroup_subsys *ss;
> > > > > +	int cpu, ssid;
> > > > >  
> > > > > -	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu)
> > > > > -		raw_spin_lock_init(per_cpu_ptr(&cgroup_rstat_cpu_lock, cpu));
> > > > > +	for_each_subsys(ss, ssid) {
> > > > > +		spin_lock_init(&cgroup_rstat_subsys_lock[ssid]);
> > > > > +	}
> > > > 
> > > > Hm, with this loop I realize it may be worth putting this lock into
> > > > struct cgroup_subsys_state and initializing them in
> > > > cgroup_init_subsys() to keep all per-subsys data in one pack.
> > > 
> > > I thought about this, but this would have unnecessary memory overhead as
> > > we only need one lock per-subsystem. So having a lock in every single
> > > css is wasteful.
> > > 
> > > Maybe we can put the lock in struct cgroup_subsys? Then we can still
> > > initialize them in cgroup_init_subsys().
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually one of things I was thinking about if we can just not have
> > per-subsystem lock at all. At the moment, it is protecting
> > rstat_flush_next field (today in cgroup and JP's series it is in css).
> > What if we make it a per-cpu then we don't need the per-subsystem lock
> > all? Let me know if I missed something which is being protected by this
> > lock.
> 
> I think it protects more than that. I remember locking into this before,
> and the thing I remember is that stats themselves. Looking at
> mem_cgroup_stat_aggregate(), we aggregate the stats into the per-cgroup
> counters non-atomically. This is only protected by the rstat lock
> (currently global, per-subsystem with the series) AFAICT.
> 
> Not sure if only the memory subsystem has this dependency or if others
> do as well. I remember looking into switching these counters to atomics
> to remove the global lock, but it performed worse IIRC.
> 
> I remember also looking into partioning the lock into a per-cgroup (or
> per-css now?) lock, and only holding locks of the parent and child
> cgroups as we flush each cgroup. I don't remember if I actually
> implemented this, but it introduces complexity.
> 
> Perhaps we can defer the locking into the subsystem, if only the memory
> controller requires it. In this case mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush() (or
> mem_cgroup_stat_aggregate()) can hold a memcg-specific spinlock only
> while aggregating the stats.
> 
> There could be other things protected by the lock, but that's what I
> remember.

Thanks for reminding me. It does not seem straight forward or simple.
Lower priority then.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-27 21:55 [PATCH 0/4 v2] cgroup: separate rstat trees inwardvessel
2025-02-27 21:55 ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] cgroup: move cgroup_rstat from cgroup to cgroup_subsys_state inwardvessel
2025-02-27 22:43   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-02-28 19:04   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01  1:06     ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-01  1:25       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01  1:30         ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-03 18:18         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-03 18:21           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-03 15:20   ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-03 19:31     ` JP Kobryn
2025-02-27 21:55 ` [PATCH 2/4 v2] cgroup: rstat lock indirection inwardvessel
2025-03-03 15:21   ` Michal Koutný
2025-02-27 21:55 ` [PATCH 3/4 v2] cgroup: separate rstat locks for subsystems inwardvessel
2025-02-27 22:52   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-02-28 16:07     ` JP Kobryn
2025-02-28 17:37   ` JP Kobryn
2025-02-28 19:20   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-06 21:47     ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-01 23:00   ` kernel test robot
2025-03-03 15:22   ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-03 18:29     ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-03 18:40       ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-03 19:23         ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-03 19:39           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-03 19:50         ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-03 20:09           ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-03-03 18:49       ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-10 17:59         ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-11 13:49           ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-06 21:36       ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-03 23:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-02-27 21:55 ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] cgroup: separate rstat list pointers from base stats inwardvessel
2025-02-27 23:01   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-02-28 20:33   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-28 18:22 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] cgroup: separate rstat trees Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-03 15:19 ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-06  1:07   ` JP Kobryn
2025-03-11 13:49     ` Michal Koutný

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